Chanter Equip Optimization - Lev 50 to 60 Edition

[Seducio]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can honestly say that on live enchanters generally did not bother with trying to stick to 255 charisma. When ever you were close to 200 you would try to squeeze as much into your hitpoints and resists as possible.

This.

The whole thread rests on this. I enjoy both perspectives on display here between cha and hp. Realistically different situations call for different equipment. But p99 definitely is not Live and I'd love to hear from others even more diverse ways of how different high level chanters are looking at this issue on this specific server.

Since this is called Everquest, I always like to think I'm after something. Just trying to figure out what rode that is.
(hard cap fulfillment vs HP and resists... and all the tradeoffs and different situations that go along with those tradeoffs)

[guineapig]

On a side note, I don't think anyone mentioned wrist items. Easiest upgrades for you to obtain would be the enchanter bracer from Sky (can even drop on Island 1 I think). The other being the supple scale armband that drops in KC.

[Arkyani]

Hit me up in game and ill show ya what im using. I got some things you may want to try to get in the near future.

[Nanto]

There's just not that much equipment drops for us in Kunark. Everything that's an upgrade isn't much of an upgrade and comes from hate/fear/sky.

Of course, this means you can just play your character and not worry about loots.


I feel like having my current 230 CHA is way nicer than my old 200 CHA but that could all be in my head.

[baalzy]

I can't answer the enc specific questions because I don't play one. I can just give you gear advice by looking stuff up via the wiki.

However the Adamantite ring Vs Plat rose ring, I'd say it depends on if you're fighting a lot of casters. If you're fighting pure melee then the -10svm doesnt matter and losing 5ac probably won't hurt your mitigation much as a caster anyways (IE: your mitigation will still suck so you'll likely take full dmg anyways). Personally I don't like the adamantite rings and stick to the 5ac55hp ones.

Turmoil Warts from the Turmoil Toads in PoFear would be your best bet for an ammo item you can leave behind on a corpse. Coldstones I believe are no-rent,and you don't get stats from items in the ammo slot even if the item has stats on it.

[Seducio]

After a little searching, I just found out that one can purchase a Throwing Axe from the merchant Cikoona in Oggok. I've confirmed she sells them in game and that they're equitable.

A Throwing Axe weighs 1 stone and fits in the ammo slot for most peeps, including cloth casters. This makes a great item to leave on a corpse while waiting for a res.

This answers my second question from above.

Edit: Cost was negligible. Only a few silver pieces.

[Seducio]

Here's an update of all the different equipment suggestions.

Any other suggestions?

The Primary and Secondary slots could more suggestions as well.

Currently Wearing ------> Maybe I should wear this (need to buy/get)

L Ear: Ivandyr's Loop --------> Black Sapphire Electrum Earring (crafted/optional)
R Ear: Opalline Earring ------> same as above
Head: Insidious Halo
Face: Incandescent Mask ---> Enshrouded Veil (Howling Stones) / Ivory Mask (Sky quest)
Chest: Insidious Robe ---> Crimson Robe of Adeline (Fear off God/$$$$$)
Arms: Gatorscale Sleeves ------> Insidious Sleeves (PoH)
Waist: Braided Cinch Cord ------ Sphyx Hair Cord (Sky quest)
Neck: Necklace of Superiority
Back: Hooded Black Cloak ----> Hierophant Cloak (Sebilis)
Shoulders: Embroidered Black Cape ---> Wind Walkers Mantle (Sky quest)
L Wrist: Bracelet of Woven Glass -----> Supple Scale Armband (Karnor's)
R Wrist: Bracelet of Woven Glass ------> Bracelet of Quiescence (Sky drop)
Legs: Drake-hide Leggings --------> Insidious Leggings (PoH)
Hands: Insidious Gloves ----> Ancient Shissar Gauntlet (Karnor's Venril Sathir/long stretch)
Feet: Insidious Slippers ----> Golden Efreeti Boots (SolB/optional)
L Ring: Platinum Fire Wedding Band ---> Djarn's Amethyst Ring (SolB)
R Ring: Platinum Fire Wedding Band ---> Adamantite Band-debatable(LGuk/optional)*

*--consider Goblin Gazughi Ring (LakeIllomen) if one weren't Dark Elf to force a charm break

Primary: Rod of Insidious Glamour ---> need more options of both weaps and non weaps
Secondary: A crude stein ----> Insignia Protector(Chardok Queen/raid?)
Range: Sarnak's Ceremonial Dagger ----> Bronze Statue of Bathezid (Chardok)
Ammo: A Throwing Axe (bought in Oggok off Cikoona) ---> Turmoil Warts (Fear/weighs less)

[mwatt]

I have nothing new to add reallly, but I wanted to chime in that this is a very nice post and set of replies. I think there is good information in it for other int casters as well, particularly a Necro.

[Seducio]

I have recently attained a full set of Plane of Hate gear for my chanter and wanted to add some more information to this thread.

The following compiled list are items that 50+ enchanters may be thinking of getting if they have a full set of Insidious already.

Most of the items have already been talked about, but there are some new ones. (please excuse any redundancies from earlier discussion and let me know if there are any grave omissions)

Ear:
Ivandyr's Loop (6AC 6HP 6wis 6int) - Quest in Innothule Swamp
Opalline Earring (2AC 5cha) - undead barkeep in Unrest
Black Sapphire Electrum Earring (2AC 35HP 25MP) - Crafted by Jeweler with Black Sapphire
Earring of Displacement (6AC 25MP 4cha 4int) - Test of Disillusion Quest in Plane of Sky

Face:
Bone Mask of the Jarsath (7AC 2str 8cha 4wis 5dis 5poi) - sebilite guardian in Sebilis
Elliptical Veil (3AC 20HP 4cha 2int 5magic) - a coerced crusader in Dalnir
Enshrouded Veil (7AC 30HP 30MP 2wis 2int 10fire) - Embalming Fluid in Howling Stones
Ivory Mask (6AC 30MP 6cha 6int) - Test of Deception Quest in Plane of Sky

Waist:
Sphynx Hair Cord (4AC 5cha 5int 10fire 10cold 10dis) - Test of Illusion Quest in Plane of Sky
Bone-Clasped Girdle (4AC 75Hp 75MP 7st 7sta 7dex) - Dracoliche in Plane of Fear
Grotesque Girdle (8AC 100HP 100Mana 10int 10wis) - Dracoliche in Plane of Fear

Back:
Hierophant Cloak (10AC 75HP 75MP 4str 4sta 4agi 4 dex 4 cha 4int 4wis) - Hierophant Prime Grekal in Sebilis (Crypt camp)

Neck:
Sarnak Arcane Fetish (2dex 5cha 6int) - drops of various mobs in Chardok
Necklace of Whispering Winds (4AC 35MP 5sta 10cha 5int) - Test of Memorization Quest in Plane of Sky

Shoulder:
Worn Cloth Mantle (6AC 5str 5cha 9agi) - a sebilite golem in Sebilis
Squallsurge Shawl (5AC 50MP 5sta) - Undertow in Kedge Keep
Wind Walker's Mantle (6AC 50HP 5str 5dex 10cha 2agi) - Test of Metamorhism Quest in Plane of Sky

Hand:
Ancient Shissar Gauntlet (15AC 10str 10sta 20int 12dis 12poi) - Venril Sathir in Kunark

Wrist:
Golden Bracer (5AC 7str 7int) - A Crypt Spectre in Howling Stones
Supple Scale Armband (3AC 25MP 5wis 5int 10fire) - a Drolvarg warlord in Karnor's
Bracelet of Quiescence (20MP 7cha 7 int) - drops off various mobs in Plane of Sky
Zombie Flesh Bracer (6AC 65HP 65MP 5int) - Dracoliche in Plane of Fear

Feet:
Golden Efreeti Boots (5AC 9wis 9int 1poi) - Efreeti Lord Djarn in Solusek B

Ring:
Band of Eternal Flame (5AC 25HP 25MP 4str 4int 10fire 10cold) - Skeletal Berserker in Karnor's Castle
Djarn's Amethyst Ring (80HP 9agi) - Efreeti Lord Djarn

Primary (fight):
Withered Staff (1h blunt 11dam 24del effect:insipid weakness) - drops off various Sarnaks in Chardok
Rod of Oblations (1h blunt 6dam 27del 60mana 10fire 10cold) Drusella Sathir in Howling Stones
Rod of Annihilation (1h blunt 60Dam 40Del -50int 10magic) - No longer drops, very rare
Staff of the Serpent (1h blunt 11dam 24del 40HP 60MP 5str 10sta 15cha 20int 10fire 10dis 10cold 10magic 10 poi) - Epic, not in game yet

Staff of the Waterwalker (2h blunt 18dam 38del 100HP 10wis 10int) - Gangrenous Scarab in Sebilis
Shissar Nullifier Staff (2h blunt 11dam 24del 4AC 50MP 10int) - Venril Sathir in Karnor's
Rod of Warding Winds (2h blunt 15dam 45el 75MP 5cha 15int) - Test of Incapacitation in Plane of Sky
Rod of the Protecting Winds (2h blunt 35dam 45del 10AC 75MP 15cha 15int) - Test of Incapacitation in Plane of Sky

Primary (non-fight):
Cone of the Mystics (5AC 50MP 5wis 5int) - blood of chottal in Sebilis
Gnoll Hide Tome (15HP -10str 5wis 10int 10poi) - Rosch Val L`Vlor in Southern Karana

Secondary:
Stein of Moggok (10HP 5dex 10int 25dis) - Old World Quest
Shimmering Orb (15AC 20HP) - a froglok scryer in Upper Guk
Glowing Black Stone (9int 10magic) - Pyzjn in Qeynos Hills
Stein of Tears (25MP 5sta 5cha 5wis 5int) - Bile Sentinel in Howling Stones
Book of Obulus (45MP 8wis 8int 5fire 5magic) - Spectra Turnkey in Karnor's, Brogg in Sebilis
Drachnid Thyxl (5AC 40MP 5int 10magic) - a dread widow in Dreadlands
Cryosilk Webshield (10AC 35HP 7dex 7int) - a spinechiller spider in Plane of Fear
Rokyls Channelling Crystal (10AC 50HP 50MP) - Magus Rokyl (Fire Giant) in Solusek B
Ornate Rune Shield (15AC 10MP 8int 5fire 5dis 5cold 5magic 5poi) - Neh`Ashiir in City of Mist
Insignia Protector (20AC 20MP 5cha 10wis 10int 10fire 10cold 10magic) - Queen Velazul Di'zok (Royals) in Chardok

Range:
Dustscryer's Crystal Ball (30MP 2int) - A Goblin Dustscryer in Frontier Mountains

Notable Resist Gear to Get;
Earring of Essence (30HP 10magic) - Soothsayer Degzak in Droga
Crown of King Tranix (13AC 15cha 20magic) - King Tranix (Fire Giant) in Solusek B
Crown of the Froglok Kings (12AC 20fire 20cold) - the froglok king in Lower Guk

Situationally Optional:
Adamantite Band (75HP -10magic) - a reanimated hand in Lower Guk
Black Sapphire Platinum Necklace (55HP 55MP) - Crafted by Jeweler with Black Sapphire
Goblin Gazughi Ring (1AC 5magic / Clickie effect invis to animals ends charm) - a Sarnak courier in Lake of Ill omen
Worker Sledgemallet (OT gate hammer) - Undead Foreman Quest in Overthere


I welcome any and all suggestions to fix this list as a reference for any 50s chanters.

EDIT: Remove references to Chardok revamp items from this list. Thanks to Nanto and his Chardok thread for clearing up state of named mobs in old Chardok here on p99. More editing and revisions due in the near future

[greatdane]

R Ring: Platinum Fire Wedding Band ---> Adamantite Band
(are HPs worth the neg MR?)

No. Keep the 55/5 ring. 20HP is not worth 5AC 10MR. The AC is actually fairly nice - you won't have a ton of it, but it does help, don't ignore that stat. Adamantite Band is a bad item.

In general, I'd ignore INT unless it's a slot where you simply can't get HP or CHA. INT is such a placebo stat, and 95% of the time it'll do you no good whatsoever. I didn't even bother to cast Brilliance on myself when I played an enchanter, because the situations where the size of my mana pool mattered were so few I could count them on two hands over the course of 50 levels. Get your charisma to 215 (you can drop it to 205 when you get the +50 CHA buff at 56) and focus everything else on survivability stats. It doesn't hurt to have some INT pieces for situations where you aren't doing anything that relies on CHA, but if you don't have unlimited funds and have to decide whether to buy, say, gebs or a HP item, get the HP item and don't spend anything on INT items until you can't improve your CHA/HP/resists anymore.