Extensive evidence, full proof that Enchanters are non-classic and must be nerfed.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Izmael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just kidding.







Seek help.

+1 for the good guys

[Jibartik]

lol op

[Jibartik]

Loramin, you are on a crusade because you post your "non researched belief" that charm didnt work the way it does right now in every thread about enchanters.

You have done none of what you say this server does, and yet here you go again talking about it like you have. Stop trying to push your shaman agenda on enchanters. It's obvious that you are super biased.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Loramin, you are on a crusade because you post your "non researched belief" that charm didnt work the way it does right now in every thread about enchanters.

You have done none of what you say this server does, and yet here you go again talking about it like you have. Stop trying to push your shaman agenda on enchanters. It's obvious that you are super biased.

For the record, my Shaman is only one of my toons, and I literally haven't played him in months. I also have (among other toons) a 60 Druid, a 30-something Necro, and an Enchanter in his teens that I will someday level up. In other words, I both:

A) have plenty of practical knowledge of what it's like to level a charmer on P99, and

B) have "skin in the game": my advocacy is making my own future life harder!

No joke: I very much plan to take both my Necro and Enchanter (screw Bards, my wrists can't take it) to 60 here someday. This means that if my "crusade" succeeds in to make charming harder accurate here, it will make my own life much harder.

So why on earth would I advocate for something that makes my own life more difficult? Because I've had a ton of fun here! I'm appreciative of what the staff has given us, so I want to support them in their goal. Again, their goal is a more accurate emulator, and pretending our emulator is accurate when people are playing it in a massively different way than they did the original doesn't help them ... even if it makes it easier for my Enchanter to level up someday.

Also, you people seem to think live Enchanters were some terrible class: they weren't! Making Enchanters classic here won't end them, it will just make them want to group more, like they did on live.

[RecondoJoe]

Ignore them, Loramin. Everyone on TLP makes fun of how broken P99's charm system is, and every guide discourages new players from stacking Charisma because of how unrewarding it is. P99 is a custom server with a unique version of charm that doesn't even remotely resemble the system that was or is in place on live.

My guild leader actually made fun of me for wearing an Ishva robe and Siryn Hair Hood, and then I explained to him that all of my Enchanters gear is stuff I pieced together with stuff I already had in my bank. I didn't go out and buy a bunch of useless Charisma gear.

[Jibartik]

You people?

bro I played an enchanter as my first class on tunare and rallos zek since the day the game launched, I charmed creatures and people every day it never got resisted. What i didnt know were a thing were AOE stuns and every cleric would /q the group if you charmed because everyone was a prickly back then.

9/10 times I would break charm myself and only use it as a reliable mez because I was a stupid ass teenager.

[RecondoJoe]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You people?

bro I played an enchanter as my first class on tunare and rallos zek since the day the game launched, I charmed creatures and people every day it never got resisted. What i didnt know were a thing were AOE stuns and every cleric would /q the group if you charmed because everyone was a prickly back then.

9/10 times I would break charm myself and only use it as a reliable mez because I was a stupid ass teenager.

IDK how accurate this really is. I always felt like Enchanters were useless in duels (I was on Tunare also). I remember dueling my friend and feeling like a bully because he went completely OOM trying to get his magic-based spells to land on me. Granted I was in full Skyshrine gear at the time.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by RecondoJoe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IDK how accurate this really is. I always felt like Enchanters were useless in duels (I was on Tunare also). I remember dueling my friend and feeling like a bully because he went completely OOM trying to get his magic-based spells to land on me. Granted I was in full Skyshrine gear at the time.

the greatest dueler on rallos zek was a druid named starsparkle she won duels every minuet for months when the game lauched, i dueled her, she taught me how to charm. She charmed in every duel.

[loramin]

Wait, I'm confused: are you saying you soloed your way to 60 through charming, P99-style ... or were you playing in a group like virtually every Enchanter did on live?

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait, I'm confused: are you saying you soloed your way to 60 through charming, P99-style ... or were you playing in a group like virtually every Enchanter did on live?

No I’m saying that charm didn’t behave the way you (don’t remember it) behaving