why is rooted dragons bad?

[Tunabros]

what was the reason behind it in the first place?

to fuck over casual raiders and force zerg guilds to be formed?

[Allishia]

Originally Posted by Tunabros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what was the reason behind it in the first place?

to fuck over casual raiders and force zerg guilds to be formed?

I think main issue was other guilds were trying to compete too and for longest time it was two guilds. One had the left other had right...once you had 4 guilds sitting at tov ENT trying to pull dragons it got messy...

[Convict]

Originally Posted by Allishia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think main issue was other guilds were trying to compete too and for longest time it was two guilds. One had the left other had right...once you had 4 guilds sitting at tov ENT trying to pull dragons it got messy...

this pretty much nailed it

Petitions were bad enough with 2 guilds vying for mobs at ent. Once it started to get to 3-4 guilds at ent trying to fight for FTE and pull to ent pretty much every spawn someone was getting trained or pulls interfered with, etc. Basically, GM's didn't want to have to babysit 4 guilds every spawn cycle. Honestly, they probably didnt like the idea of mobs spawning and being FTE'd, trained to ent, and killed immediately either and I don't blame them. As fun as the pull to entrance era was, I get how ridiculous it probably seemed for the devs/GMs.

Funny thing is, short of a hard GM enforced rotation, no matter what rules they put in, or changes they make to raid boss behavior, the raiders on p99 will find ways to fuck with each other, look for shady advantages, or ways to get a "leg up" on their competition, bending or straight up breaking rules and cause petitions.

[Mblake1981]

Since nothing is permanent guild wise on P99. You ultimo players should instill a <Core> era of smaller guilds made up of the best people who normally populate the top guild. You know, for shits n' giggles.

You would have all the competition your hearts could want. Just enforce keeping spies out of your new guild Discord channels and we are good.

[Mblake1981]

Sitting in seb waiting for hours on trak, nothing going on.

Trak spawns, your guild is waiting with 30.

A/A logs in at weirdo hour, zone lags

320 in zone.

20 seconds, Dragon dead. Your guild morale tanks.

The only players willing to sit around doing extreme shit app to A/A

Zerg has overwhelming ability aka Riot

Chew the worst Orc turds

I hope you choke.

[myrddraal]

antisocial neckbeard elitists who never learned to share are the only ones who dont like rooted dragons.

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by myrddraal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

antisocial neckbeard elitists who never learned to share are the only ones who dont like rooted dragons.

rooted dragons took tov from 2 guilds always, a lot of times 3 guilds in ToV during repop day, to 1 for an entire year. That is not more inclusive. Although truthfully the end of lockouts ruined the true low man squads more than rooted dragons did


@Alli and the rest, the dragons weren't rooted because there were too many guilds in tov. The chain of events seem to be, at least from the outside, Sirken gets forced out, Braknar immediately starts losing his shit about how toxic the raid scene is, posts a FULL GUILD ROTATION on the forums after the very first petition (For real, I think it was actually the first petition, AG AM and Core competed for a month or two pretty happily/without major drama after Tempest died- also was probably the most fun I had in TOV, all 3 guilds had a legit shot at every mob) Braknar loses his shit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] because he got circumvented by Rogean, posts all that shit on reddit trying to prove that Nil/Rog don't care about his feelings, and promptly after that they release rooted dragons as an attempt to mitigate raid toxicity.

That's my take at least

[Convict]

Originally Posted by Twochain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

rooted dragons took tov from 2 guilds always, a lot of times 3 guilds in ToV during repop day, to 1 for an entire year. That is not more inclusive. Although truthfully the end of lockouts ruined the true low man squads more than rooted dragons did


@Alli and the rest, the dragons weren't rooted because there were too many guilds in tov. The chain of events seem to be, at least from the outside, Sirken gets forced out, Braknar immediately starts losing his shit about how toxic the raid scene is, posts a FULL GUILD ROTATION on the forums after the very first petition (For real, I think it was actually the first petition, AG AM and Core competed for a month or two pretty happily/without major drama after Tempest died- also was probably the most fun I had in TOV, all 3 guilds had a legit shot at every mob) Braknar loses his shit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] because he got circumvented by Rogean, posts all that shit on reddit trying to prove that Nil/Rog don't care about his feelings, and promptly after that they release rooted dragons as an attempt to mitigate raid toxicity.

That's my take at least

You aren't wrong but neither is Alli, its a combination of the 2, imo. Even when it was just A/A it was pretty toxic but I think manageable. When it turned into 4 guilds sittin at the ent with AG and kittens or whoever, etc, joined in the poopsocking it became overwhelming, likely drastically increasing the amount of petitions, which lead to Braknar losing his shit. At least that's how I remember it.

[Allishia]

Originally Posted by Convict [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You aren't wrong but neither is Alli, its a combination of the 2, imo. Even when it was just A/A it was pretty toxic but I think manageable. When it turned into 4 guilds sittin at the ent with AG and kittens or whoever, etc, joined in the poopsocking it became overwhelming, likely drastically increasing the amount of petitions, which lead to Braknar losing his shit. At least that's how I remember it.

Ya I remember it being awfully crowded and one guild was sitting Los of the door which is bad and they did get trained too I'm pretty sure. Wish I could find old fraps

[Bardp1999]

Raiding on P99 for 5+ years is totally normal and healthy