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[Ooloo]

And as usual I'm not against getting the vaccine or masking. I just think we should be more rational and less hysterical in how those things are implemented.

Unvaccinated people are not "stopping the pandemic from ending". For one thing, vaccinated people are still getting covid, and there are also many people who *cant* get *any* vaccines due to prior conditions. What are they supposed to do, live in a cell the rest of their lives? Covid will be here forever to an extent, but luckily it's not very dangerous at all if you're healthy. The statistics on the cdc's website clearly show this.

But I know, I know, I must "find 650k dead acceptable". Right, sure. Not a total sanctimonious manipulation of words at all.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And as usual I'm not against getting the vaccine or masking. I just think we should be more rational and less hysterical in how those things are implemented.

Unvaccinated people are not "stopping the pandemic from ending". For one thing, vaccinated people are still getting covid, and there are also many people who *cant* get *any* vaccines due to prior conditions. What are they supposed to do, live in a cell the rest of their lives? Covid will be here forever to an extent, but luckily it's not very dangerous at all if you're healthy. The statistics on the cdc's website clearly show this.

But I know, I know, I must "find 650k dead acceptable". Right, sure. Not a total sanctimonious manipulation of words at all.

Well yes actually unvaccinated people are keeping this going at very high levels. The amount of vaccinated people getting covid is negligible in comparison and even more so when you look at the numbers of vaccinated people who need to be hospitalized. Refusing to acknowledge that just shines a light on how your whole argument about “let’s be reasonable and more rational” is really just a mask for your agenda.

If everyone got the vaccine would covid still exist? Maybe. But it would be such an extremely low amount of cases per year and barely anyone would need to be hospitalized or die from it.

[Ooloo]

That's so swell too, when people revel in the deaths of people they don't like politically by posting sick memes. Really sane, well adjusted attitude.

Seriously, why do you even care if people don't get vaccinated? You clearly would enjoy\relish their deaths, because you're insane. You just like yelling at people and exerting control over them. Again, because you're insane.

[Shawk]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's so swell too, when people revel in the deaths of people they don't like politically by posting sick memes. Really sane, well adjusted attitude.

Seriously, why do you even care if people don't get vaccinated? You clearly would enjoy\relish their deaths, because you're insane. You just like yelling at people and exerting control over them. Again, because you're insane.

Who is reveling in their deaths? Some SJWs on twitter/reddit/facebook? No shit.. They are as pathetic as the fringe right.

Seems the only people reveling are those who refuse to get vaccinated as some form of macho dumb fuck bravery. Actual homicidal maniacs.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's so swell too, when people revel in the deaths of people they don't like politically by posting sick memes. Really sane, well adjusted attitude.

Seriously, why do you even care if people don't get vaccinated?

You do understand how pathogens work, right?

They spread between people, and vaccines prevent that spread. If you prevent the prevention, you're literally causing people to die ... which, to me, seems a whole lot closer to "reveling in death" than wanting people not to spread a deadly virus.

[Homesteaded]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You do understand how pathogens work, right?

They spread between people, and vaccines prevent that spread. If you prevent the prevention, you're literally causing people to die ... which, to me, seems a whole lot closer to "reveling in death" than wanting people not to spread a deadly virus.

So there isn't any risk reward calculation for you? It's as simple as stop the spread at all costs?

[Horza]

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So there isn't any risk reward calculation for you? It's as simple as stop the spread at all costs?

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[Shawk]

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So there isn't any risk reward calculation for you? It's as simple as stop the spread at all costs?

inb4 "see you want a chinese dictatorship reee commie"

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Shawk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

inb4 "see you want a chinese dictatorship reee commie"

Flippin Bergers 4 sure

[walfreyydo]

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So there isn't any risk reward calculation for you? It's as simple as stop the spread at all costs?

Not when over 150 million people have taken the vaccine with extremely low number of documented cases of side effects. No documented side effect has been shown past 6 weeks for any vaccine. Ever. Most of that 150 million is in the clear.

The vaccine is safe, there is no risk reward calculation. If you want to believe some conspiracy theorist on Telegram trying to get more followers, or some quack pot "doctor" more obsessed with getting attention/influence than actually helping people, thats fine, just dont say theres a risk/reward calculation. There is no risk.

People who have a legitimate medical condition (extremely small percentage of people) and cant take the vaccine should then be wearing masks and getting tested regularly. Dont use them as your straw man about why YOU dont want to take the vaccine.

Just admit the reason you dont want the vaccine is because you have fallen victim to the politicization that the right has created around not only the virus, but everything else. (PRO TIP: Thats how they get you to do things against your own self interest, by the way). Everyone knows it, so you dont need to hide it anymore.