Harmony cooldown remover?

[Woodrow]

So that Grim Aura clicky for example won't let me instantly recast Harmony? I'm a little confused about all of this.
What is the use case for the clicky then?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Woodrow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So that Grim Aura clicky for example won't let me instantly recast Harmony? I'm a little confused about all of this.
What is the use case for the clicky then?

It's a little hard to explain, I apologize. You can review my previous posts if you want more technical details. Here is all you need to know:

1. Put Harmony in your top spell slot.
2. Cast Harmony.
3. Click your GCD item ( https://wiki.project1999.com/Shrunke..._Skull_Earring ) as soon as Harmony finishes casting.
4. Start a 9.5 second timer on your computer, phone, gina, etc.
5. Cast Harmony again once that 9.5 second timer finishes.

Repeat steps 3-5 for however many Harmonies you want to cast back to back. This will only work if you are casting Harmony back to back.

You are saving 2.5 seconds per cast of Harmony after the first cast with this method. Whether or not you feel this is worth it is up to you. I personally don't think it is going to be a big benefit. You cannot remove the 12 second recast time with any game mechanic unfortunately.

[Crede]

Anyone actually tested this with harmony? I feel like it didn’t work on spells with longer recast times for whatever reason. Could be wrong though, maybe I just didn’t get the timing down.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone actually tested this with harmony? I feel like it didn’t work on spells with longer recast times for whatever reason. Could be wrong though, maybe I just didn’t get the timing down.

You need to set a timer for X seconds (recast timer) - Y seconds (cast timer) + 0.5 seconds (padding) and wait for that timer to finish before casting the spell again.

You cannot finish casting the spell, click your GCD, and then immediately recast Harmony. You will get the "Recast timer not met" error message.

You can test this on any spell that has a recast timer significantly longer than it's cast time.

The reason why you probably think it doesn't work is because it's not really worth the trouble to do this on a spell with a long recast timer. You typically only apply this strategy to spells like Cannibalize. The recast timer and cast timer are similar enough to where you can spam the spell faster without a timer.

[7thGate]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The reason why you probably think it doesn't work is because it's not really worth the trouble to do this on a spell with a long recast timer. You typically only apply this strategy to spells like Cannibalize. The recast timer and cast timer are similar enough to where you can spam the spell faster without a timer.

This gets used a lot for CotH accelleration. Playing a Rogue, I didn't know about the mechanics mentioned here until very recently, when someone pointed out I wasn't CotH botting as well as I could while manning a bot to help CotH a raid to triples. I wasn't using a GCD reset to interleave the cast and refresh time since I didn't realize how the top slot refresh mechanics worked and didn't think there would be an effect of resetting global cooldown on such a long recharge spell.

CotH takes 12 seconds to cast and 15 to recharge, so you can save 11+ seconds per cycle if you do it right like you suggested. I think I have since seen some mages suggest using Manna robe as a perfect spacer that also gets a bit of mana recharged for this.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by 7thGate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This gets used a lot for CotH accelleration. Playing a Rogue, I didn't know about the mechanics mentioned here until very recently, when someone pointed out I wasn't CotH botting as well as I could while manning a bot to help CotH a raid to triples. I wasn't using a GCD reset to interleave the cast and refresh time since I didn't realize how the top slot refresh mechanics worked and didn't think there would be an effect of resetting global cooldown on such a long recharge spell.

CotH takes 12 seconds to cast and 15 to recharge, so you can save 11+ seconds per cycle if you do it right like you suggested. I think I have since seen some mages suggest using Manna robe as a perfect spacer that also gets a bit of mana recharged for this.

Ah I never thought about that. Nice tip!

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone actually tested this with harmony? I feel like it didn’t work on spells with longer recast times for whatever reason. Could be wrong though, maybe I just didn’t get the timing down.

It can actually cut a lot of time of COTH too but there is a window where you can outrun the client and get the “this spell is not yet ready” message. Even top slot Flash of Light can be cast too quickly and get the message.

The real answer for this is to practice with a GCD. Whether you want to count a couple seconds or just get used to a slight pause before casting. Much of the game is instinctual and practice, often with silly things.

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[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It can actually cut a lot of time of COTH too but there is a window where you can outrun the client and get the “this spell is not yet ready” message. Even top slot Flash of Light can be cast too quickly and get the message.

The real answer for this is to practice with a GCD. Whether you want to count a couple seconds or just get used to a slight pause before casting. Much of the game is instinctual and practice, often with silly things.

Edit: didn’t read the second page again [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You won’t get the msg on coth if you wait on rest of spells to reset then use click to reset coth gcd. Saves couple secs and doesn’t screw ya with msg. It’s just timing it proper. Some spells don’t need it, mage aoe for instance scintillation requires nothing can insta click it.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You won’t get the msg on coth if you wait on rest of spells to reset then use click to reset coth gcd. Saves couple secs and doesn’t screw ya with msg. It’s just timing it proper. Some spells don’t need it, mage aoe for instance scintillation requires nothing can insta click it.

That’s good to know. I just started counting a few seconds before casting the next and it was working. Certainly faster than waiting for the gem to naturally repop for COTH. I knew about Scint and the other spells, just started using it for the long recast ones recently.

[Woodrow]

Thanks all, if anything I need a 2 min timer from my first harmony cast to make sure it doesn't start fading before I start pulling.