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Old 02-12-2024, 09:40 PM
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It's a roleplaying game. Enjoying your character is far more important than having the most optimal spreadsheet.
Some people like optimizing. That's how they enjoy their character. It's not your place to tell other people how to play the game. Give people the facts and let them decide how to play given the information.
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Old 02-13-2024, 12:51 AM
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A human, gnome, erudite, or dark elf necro can kill all the same things an iksar necro can.

Play whichever race you like looking at the most.
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Old 02-13-2024, 08:34 PM
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Some people like optimizing. That's how they enjoy their character. It's not your place to tell other people how to play the game. Give people the facts and let them decide how to play given the information.
It's not your place to tell others how to comment. That is how I enjoy commenting. People are free to decide whether the opinion in the comment is helpful to them or not.
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Old 02-13-2024, 08:59 PM
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It's not your place to tell others how to comment. That is how I enjoy commenting. People are free to decide whether the opinion in the comment is helpful to them or not.
You can post nonsensical comments like this if you wish. I cannot stop you. It isn't helping anybody, however, or proving a point. It just makes you look silly.

It also doesn't change the fact that some people enjoy optimizing their character instead of focusing on fashion, and that shouldn't be discouraged.
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Old 02-13-2024, 09:24 PM
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You can post nonsensical comments like this if you wish. I cannot stop you. It isn't helping anybody, however, or proving a point. It just makes you look silly.

It also doesn't change the fact that some people enjoy optimizing their character instead of focusing on fashion, and that shouldn't be discouraged.
You can continue be volunteer internet comment police if you wish, no one can stop you. Just realize that 1] You aren't changing anything for anyone 2] You are wasting your time 3] For some bizarre autistic reason, you think that only certain viewpoints should be allowed 4] People are here for other viewpoints and reading other's comments might make them think about things from another points of view. You know, the definition of community. I wouldn't expect you to grasp that due to your profound social underdevelopment.
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Old 02-13-2024, 10:45 AM
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If you have a Z-heart, no.

If not, yes.
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Old 09-23-2024, 04:42 PM
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If you have a Z-heart, no.

If not, yes.
This is probably the best answer. I went human eyepatch zheart with my necro and loved it. Zheart gives you enough regen to notice a difference but eventually there comes a point where you can’t even kill mobs fast enough to take advantage of all that extra regen esp when you’re just deflux’n stuff to death. Iksars will make a slightly better twitch bot on raids but if this is the reason you’re rolling a necro then you’re missing out on an insanely fun/powerful class.

I’d first pick your favorite race as there’s still a lot of non skeleton time(love that ignite bones trick!) then if you plan to raid prioritize things like zheart/ring 10/vp staff/aob.
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Old 02-13-2024, 12:00 PM
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if not lizardpeepul, definitely gnome
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Old 02-13-2024, 01:41 PM
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1-50 the Regen difference is not super noticeable. 50-60 you should mostly be charming and constantly casting Deflux to finish off mobs anyway so a lot of the efficiency advantage of Regen is wasted. 60+ raiding the Iksar will always make a better mana battery (absent ring 10 and Z-heart), but who the hell wants to do that anyway? Erudite, Human and DE Necros are both rare and awesome looking. Iksar Necros look like complete shit and are probably the single most common race/class combo in the game. But at the end of the day, the Necro class is strong enough that you can easily afford to play the non-optimal race and not lose anything except some marginal efficiency benefits at the high end.
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Old 02-13-2024, 07:20 PM
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My main beef with gnome is that you can't get a guise now, then again as a gnome you wouldn't have use for a gnome mask and gl ever getting one of those if you start an iksar.

Being an iksar is nice for the regen but I dare say that non-iksar is best for leveling due to the XP penalty. Most camps have long enough spawn timers for iksar regen not to matter and there aren't that many spots where you just chain kill and where the XP is limited by downtime.

I've yet to hear of a single camp or fight that an iksar could pull off but a non-iksar couldn't given end-game gear. With a Z-heart and Ring 10 you'll do well enough. I guess for raiding it's nice to have iksar regen that unlike Ring 10 stacks with regen line of spells. But rarely matters what you do in raids anyway.

Having wall vision as a gnome is not to be underestimated, especially for a class with lulls. Sure, you can spend money on shrink pots and even if it's not a lot of money at 60 at least I find myself I'm too cheap to use them when I should.

The faction issue is a moot point because skelly illusion removes your race faction adjustment.
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