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Old 07-21-2011, 11:47 AM
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[QUOTE=Slave;340544]Actually the IFS will be the best weapon you can own from 20-50, having the exact same dps with half the weight, and 1/5th the price. It'll allow you to testdrive the monk without destroying your bank. You also won't lose a ton of money as Tstaff and RFS devalue.

That is true, I forgot about weight. Does stamina matter on this server? Also it is a better deal on price also. You can grab a JM and a Cane of harmony for 1 to 20 to tear some crap up for like 4k.
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:48 AM
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Actually the IFS will be the best weapon you can own from 20-50, having the exact same dps with half the weight, and 1/5th the price. It'll allow you to testdrive the monk without destroying your bank. You also won't lose a ton of money as Tstaff and RFS devalue.
That is true, I forgot about weight. Does stamina matter on this server? Also it is a better deal on price also. You can grab a JM and a Cane of harmony for 1 to 20 to tear some crap up for like 4k.
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:57 AM
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That is true, I forgot about weight. Does stamina matter on this server? Also it is a better deal on price also. You can grab a JM and a Cane of harmony for 1 to 20 to tear some crap up for like 4k.
Stamina hasn't been implemented yet.
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:09 PM
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Stamina hasn't been implemented yet.
Part 2 of your statement should have read: but weight is extremely important for Monks anyway, due to AC concerns.
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:38 PM
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Part 2 of your statement should have read: but weight is extremely important for Monks anyway, due to AC concerns.
Right. Though since he's twinking a monk I was hoping he'd know that already. One important thing to note, though, is that despite the UI showing otherwise, all monks of any level have a weight limit of 14. 15 or over and you take an AC hit. The UI shows that at higher levels you can have higher weights, but this is not the case, and is noted in one of the recent patch notes.
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:50 PM
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Right. Though since he's twinking a monk I was hoping he'd know that already. One important thing to note, though, is that despite the UI showing otherwise, all monks of any level have a weight limit of 14. 15 or over and you take an AC hit. The UI shows that at higher levels you can have higher weights, but this is not the case, and is noted in one of the recent patch notes.
thanks for the tip.

regarding ifs vs rfs, i'd figure rfs would be better DPS wise due to the fact that you have more chances to hit the mob - one miss with the ifs is equivalent to 2 of rfs!
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Old 07-21-2011, 01:05 PM
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Actually the IFS will be the best weapon you can own from 20-50, having the exact same dps with half the weight, and 1/5th the price. It'll allow you to testdrive the monk without destroying your bank. You also won't lose a ton of money as Tstaff and RFS devalue.
Runed Fighters Staff outdamages the Imbued Fighters Staff by quite a large margin. These two weapons are not even close. Both of these have the same damage bonus until a few months before Velious when two handed weapons with delay under 28 are nerfed.

This is another thing to consider when figuring out which you want to buy. If you do end up purchasing a Runed Fighters Staff, its going to lose a lot of its value after the damage bonus is changed.

I would just go with the Tranquil Staff if you can only afford/want to buy one weapon. There is no nerf that will make it lose its value. Also, if you are still around in the Velious era, you will most likely be switching to two one hand weapons (or fists with epic) that provide more dps and can still sell the Tranquil Staff for a pretty good chunk of plat.
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Old 07-21-2011, 01:29 PM
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Also, if you are still around in the Velious era, you will most likely be switching to two one hand weapons (or fists with epic) that provide more dps and can still sell the Tranquil Staff for a pretty good chunk of plat.
In all of my experimentation on live, Tstaff + epic haste + item haste was always stronger than epic fists + epic haste + item haste. I could be wrong - if someone wants to eventually post parses here that show that epic fists are better, fine - but epic fists (9/16) didn't trump Tstaff on live in late Velious/Luclin.
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Old 07-21-2011, 01:50 PM
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Runed Fighters Staff outdamages the Imbued Fighters Staff by quite a large margin. These two weapons are not even close. Both of these have the same damage bonus until a few months before Velious when two handed weapons with delay under 28 are nerfed.

This is another thing to consider when figuring out which you want to buy. If you do end up purchasing a Runed Fighters Staff, its going to lose a lot of its value after the damage bonus is changed.

I would just go with the Tranquil Staff if you can only afford/want to buy one weapon. There is no nerf that will make it lose its value. Also, if you are still around in the Velious era, you will most likely be switching to two one hand weapons (or fists with epic) that provide more dps and can still sell the Tranquil Staff for a pretty good chunk of plat.
Wouldn't the RFS still go up in value as time passes just due to the fact that it no longer drops?

Also, I think the T-Staff will steadily decrease in price as time passes as well..any thoughts?
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Old 07-21-2011, 01:53 PM
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Monks are undoubtedly the best melee soloers-- and they are the most dynamic when it comes to a group/raid dynamic when it comes to pulling.
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