How are people struggling with aggro in 2024?

[Smoofers]

Dead OP, have you tried getting good?

[shovelquest]

In pug groups at this age of the game I take it as my responsibility to pull agro from the tank not listen and accidentally agro a room really far from the camp and then run back asking for help and then logging off as soon as I feel like it right after any CR without really telling anyone.

So we get that classic experience, you know?

[Castle2.0]

Cheap root

or

Shaman on expensive root after canni but before med tic

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Main tank with Herbalist Spade

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Druid clicking https://wiki.project1999.com/Warden_Symbol_of_Tunare mana free inbteween med tics

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Earth pet

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Skele pet with 2x https://wiki.project1999.com/Ebony_Bladed_Sword

Problem solved.

Easy.

Git gud, noobs.

[Ciderpress]

If you're xping in a pickup group in velks or something there's literally no reason not to root the mob if somebody can, rogues can do a lot more damage without pulling aggro that way, so the mob dies faster and the next mob arrives faster and your xp bar moves faster. Raids are a totally different story, because obviously.

[Ciderpress]

That being said, I honestly can't remember if it's even classic that mobs always attack the nearest PC when rooted, which is the whole reason it's useful for threat here. I don't really remember that being a thing back in 99-2001, but maybe it was?

[Eisai]

Ro says: it was classic.

But also, until the very end of velius pets tanked on matter how many PCs were in range. Earth pet wasn't the best then because it would max-range spamming root making mobs turn on me often enough to be annoying to my DPS meter and healer. We used this mechanic to kill AoW the first time, the devs said it was impossible but we always find a way. They Nerfed pet aggro because of that kill. I can see why p99 chose to keep the Nerf

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That being said, I honestly can't remember if it's even classic that mobs always attack the nearest PC when rooted, which is the whole reason it's useful for threat here. I don't really remember that being a thing back in 99-2001, but maybe it was?

/shrug. What I do remember is how people hated root pets back in the day cos they 'messed up aggro'.

[Ciderpress]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/shrug. What I do remember is how people hated root pets back in the day cos they 'messed up aggro'.

Yeah it just seems like such an obvious tactic to use in groups that it should have become common practice within like the first month of release in 1999. There were hundreds of thousands of people figuring out how the game worked back then, somebody would have noticed "oh hey, if you just root the mob it will always attack the nearest person no matter what."

I have a couple RL friends from highschool who played extensively in classic, and they both tried p99 and asked the same question which was "why does everyone root the mob in groups?".

[Wakanda]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/shrug. What I do remember is how people hated root pets back in the day cos they 'messed up aggro'.

idk what is or isnt classic btw, i feel like back in the day we were just happy to have a tank and healer in general lol. i remember as a monk using a ranger to tank and the group falling apart when he left (weird how monks on p99 are viable tanks at all levels and untwinked)

but im mostly referring to p99 exclusively

like i play this game 24/7 and dont care what type of tank we have because root pretty much negates the issue altogether, so im mostly responding to the people who make it sound like warrior or monk tanks arent viable because of aggro

like no? it sounds to me like the casters in your group arent viable, lol.

also idk how classic root is, because i remember asking my friends why they used snare and stinging swarm to kill mobs and why they dont just root them, and they told me because root broke constantly and wasnt viable, so they had to use snare instead

meanwhile on p99 root rot is the meta

so like, hard to know what classic really is at this point

but im mostly referring to p99 meta

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Wakanda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

idk what is or isnt classic btw, i feel like back in the day we were just happy to have a tank and healer in general lol. i remember as a monk using a ranger to tank and the group falling apart when he left (weird how monks on p99 are viable tanks at all levels and untwinked)a

Monks were good on live, but they are crazy good here. I remember my iksar monk in her 20s being able to just fight her way back into camps naked against blue con mobs on the exceedingly rare occasion she died. I was flabergasted as these were mobs that I had struggled to solo on my warrior which had fair armour / weapons.