What lvl to Quad

[Ulivar]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can quad with pillar of frost .

yes I looked up my 51 spells and saw the dmg on pillar of frost seemed to be a massive upgrade from anything previous to it, been trying to find it since and when i do I will give quading a shot again

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Ulivar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes I looked up my 51 spells and saw the dmg on pillar of frost seemed to be a massive upgrade from anything previous to it

It absolutely is. The difference in damage per point of mana ratio on Pillar as compared to Circle of Force (the most efficient targeted AoE up to that point) is absolutely huge. It proves to me that the original devs really underpowered every aspect of the Wizard class and they had to make up for it...

Example: Go quad HGs/Specs with pillar of frost when you get it. Absolutely night and day. Atol's shackles are also definitely worth the extra duration - also, little known fact - Atol's has a slightly larger targeted AoE radius...Mostly irrelevant, but I've had situations where it made a difference.

[Raavak]

That spell is a really common drop too. Maybe check with the Skyfire ae group, you could get one cheap or less maybe. Or wherever they are vendoring (WC or Felwithe).

And yeah, the Kunark column spells are like 2x as efficient as the classic ones. Its huge.

[WizardEQ]

I can't believe I ate the WHOLE thing!

Thanks for your input on good quadding spots. They help when waiting for group or just logging for a few.

Ok, I finally did a full quad in OT yesterday at lvl 38.

I did it on 4 succulents, had to re-do BoF only once (which is typically), got no adds / resists (thank god). Three of them dropped at once, last one with a nuke. I didn't have to cast Harvest, and I had 17% of mana left.

Picture-perfect quad with 1.5 blues of exp.

Maybe we're just mis-remembering resists rates, but I'm CERTAIN that fizzle rates are fucked up still (god I feel old).

Xaxian

[WizardEQ]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

($$).

Damn, I like that!

[WizardEQ]

Originally Posted by Atmas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On Mess's suggestion in an another thread I was quadding Mammoths from my mid-twenties up until about 32 on this server. Which went pretty well.

I'm not sure if you are confusing fizzles and resists. Your fizzle rate has no association with your target. The most recent patch had a note that Uth adjusted fizzle rates but was very ambigous about what that meant. I notice that when killing HGs I pretty much always get at least one fizzle a mob, which seems a bit in excess but I can't recall how it was 11 years ago that well.

Never saw post about quadding mammoth. Maybe stupid question but no snare is needed for these guys I guess.

And I do know the difference between a fizzle and a resist; they're apples and oranges. The only class I've ever played or rolled is a wizard!

Fizz Le (toon in Conquest on Lanys)

[WizardEQ]

Originally Posted by Atmas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I notice that when killing HGs I pretty much always get at least one fizzle a mob, which seems a bit in excess but I can't recall how it was 11 years ago that well.

One fizzle per mob I can take. It's the 3-4 in a row that are ridiculous. You guys having this issue? Maybe the devs just hate me. I'll post SS next time it happens.

Xaxian

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by WizardEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I did it on 4 succulents, had to re-do BoF only once (which is typically), got no adds / resists (thank god). Three of them dropped at once, last one with a nuke. I didn't have to cast Harvest, and I had 17% of mana left.

During successful quads, i've never had to reapply BoF. The only times I have to cast it multiple times is if I get a resist on the initial cast or a bunch of resists on the AoE, which ceased after I stopped trying to take on Specs between 37-40 and went with a more consistent location. I don't think i've had meaningful AoE resists since level 46.

Originally Posted by WizardEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never saw post about quadding mammoth. Maybe stupid question but no snare is needed for these guys I guess.

Once you get your level 24 AoE column of lightning (you can do it with the level 16 version - pillar of fire - as well, and it is safer, but takes a bit longer), you can full-speed AoE kite mammoths in EF straight to 31. It's amazing exp. You can do it to 32, but It slowed down significantly at 31. You can actually full-speed quad pretty well with the 51+ pillar line, since pillar of frost casts very quickly.

[Felwithemagi]

I remember leveling up and fizzling like mad. While watching /auc I would just cast the same cheap spell/school over and over. When I got here there was none of that and I said 'ok, kinda cool'. After the latest patch it seems more in line like I remember it on live.

[Atmas]

Originally Posted by WizardEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never saw post about quadding mammoth. Maybe stupid question but no snare is needed for these guys I guess.

And I do know the difference between a fizzle and a resist; they're apples and oranges. The only class I've ever played or rolled is a wizard!

Fizz Le (toon in Conquest on Lanys)

If you are running faster than the mobs with SoW or Jboots snare wasn't really essential because the AoE nukes casted faster at that lvl, but you had to be on your toes. Once I got AoE snare I definitely used it because it made things so much easier and quicker. Without the snare you have to gain max spell casting distance again before casting.