Remove Angry Goblin Window

[Naethyn]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This should be 30 seconds like everything else. The only reason its 10 seconds is because of a few bad actors.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s....php?p=3526053

[Aeryse]

The 8 hour window sucks. It's a huge waste of time for almost everyone involved. A static spawn would be much better - you've still got to win the roll. Scout proves that it's not going to kill interest. I'd be fine with a reduced window of an hour or whatever so there is a little bit of flavor.

The 10 second roll is frankly, insane to me. How do you do.... anything? You can't even go get a drink or use the bathroom without having to worry about missing the roll. It should just be like the scout with 30 seconds to roll.

At the end of the day an 8 hour long window and 10 second roll window is just brutal.

[Ripqozko]

keep the window, windows are great.

[kjs86z2]

How many people show up for this and sock it?

Every single one of them needs an intervention.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How many people show up for this and sock it?

Every single one of them needs an intervention.

Don't kink shame.

One of the great things about this game is that lots of different people play it lots of different ways: who cares if someone else plays it differently than you do?

[Zuranthium]

Doing nothing for 8 hours isn't playing a game, nor the intended way the game was supposed to be played. In terms of what EQ is supposed to be, high priority loot should have variability of spawn location, which rewards dungeon crawling to get items. It's unfortunate the devs didn't have time/resources to improve the underlying systems of the game, instead being focused on pushing out expansions and fixing bugs.

[WarpathEQ]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doing nothing for 8 hours isn't playing a game, nor the intended way the game was supposed to be played. In terms of what EQ is supposed to be, high priority loot should have variability of spawn location, which rewards dungeon crawling to get items. It's unfortunate the devs didn't have time/resources to improve the underlying systems of the game, instead being focused on pushing out expansions and fixing bugs.

It wasn't really needed in a vast world with continual expansions. The knowledge wasn't prevelant back than. The systems in place were equally as mysterious as the changes you propose. Spawn locations, loot tables, respawn windows were all unknowns on release, not to mention quest lines and components. The way they built it, however, would have been much more simplistic from a development standpoint allowing for more focus on more depth and content, something that holds EQ in its own category as a game that can draw you in for years and years (where as most games fall short in days, weeks, or months).

The "how the games supposed to be" aspect being broken is a component of being in a time locked classic reproduction where all things are known to all people and the amount of time we're spending in these expansions is exponential to what they were designed for.

The window is not only normal gameplay its actually pretty mild compare to basically all competitive socking, which is where virtually all desirable loot in the game comes from. Having 10 seconds to react at some point inside of an 8 hour window is far easier than having 1-2 seconds to react to a 16 or 24 hour window (and having 20-100 people be pissed if you don't win). The key difference is for this the player actually has to do it for themselves, they can't rely on someone else to do all the work to sock the mob and then just appear when its there and their FTE.

I think the main case against expanding the roll time from 10 seconds to 30 seconds is it actually penalizes the players that are legit there actively socking. It opens the door for people to park AFK bots in droves and use GINA triggers to alert them to roll despite not even having eyes on the screen at any point during the 8 hours. It could potentially turn Angry Goblin into a gatekeeped MQ trap just like drusella and plane of hate have been. At least right now you have to go through some pain to get the reward.

Not to mention if you don't want to sock the mob, the good news is he spawns on quake. Park a toon there and you can roll roughly 3 times a month with virtually 0 wait time. And of course you always have the option to skip it all together, play the game however you want to, and use the money you make along the way to pay someone to sock it for you, with a guaranteed outcome of getting the loot (via MQ).

[cd288]

I'm not arguing for a change, personally I don't care, but acting like the system here is mild and makes sense is kinda, well, nonsensical. As is comparing it to long raid target windows because, as you admit, you usually have a team of several people running tracking during those windows.

8 hour window, solo, with 10 seconds to react is pretty insane. As other commenters have noted, you quite literally can't do anything else during that window including simply using the bathroom or trying to effectively feed yourself lol.

[Naethyn]

No other windows require a 10 second timer. 30 seconds is the standard for everything else. 10 seconds was chosen, because really sweaty people who don't even play here anymore wanted to exclude as many people as possible.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No other windows require a 10 second timer. 30 seconds is the standard for everything else. 10 seconds was chosen, because really sweaty people who don't even play here anymore wanted to exclude as many people as possible.