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Old 09-22-2025, 06:43 PM
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Old 09-22-2025, 08:53 PM
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No you can't.

That's enough misinformation from you.
EQ was not based on DikuMUD so much that it got sued for copying their code ... but there's also zero chance that all of the overlaps between the two games were coincidental:

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There was a minor controversy in late 1999 and early 2000 regarding whether the commercial MMORPG EverQuest, developed by Verant Interactive, had derived its code from DikuMUD.[18] It began at the Re:Game gaming conference in 1999, where the Director of Product Development for EverQuest, Bernard Yee, allegedly stated that EverQuest was "based on Dikumud". He did not specify whether he meant the code itself was derived from DikuMUD, or if it just had a similar feeling. Some attendees had understood it to mean the former, given that the chief designer, Brad McQuaid was an avid player of SojournMUD and TorilMUD that was based on the Sequent DikuMUD derivative, and reported to that effect on Usenet.[19] After the Diku group requested clarification, Verant issued a sworn statement on March 17, 2000 that EverQuest was not based on DikuMUD source code, and was built from the ground up.[20][21] In response, the DikuMUD team publicly stated that they find no reason whatsoever to believe any of the rumors that EverQuest was derived from DikuMUD code.[22][23]
So, as I said before:

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Old 09-22-2025, 09:06 PM
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I mean, you could also argue that EQ copied DikuMUD, or that DikuMUD copied other MUDs, or that MUDs copied old school RPGs like Wizard, or that Wizadry copied Dungeons and Dragons, or that ...

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Yes, former World of Warcraft (WoW) leads, like Allen Brack and others on the development team, have acknowledged that EverQuest was a foundational inspiration for WoW, with Brack stating that EverQuest was the "big foundation for WoW" and the development team aimed to create a more accessible version of the MMORPG genre. The core of the EverQuest experience, including features like exploration, questing, a persistent game world, and character progression, directly influenced the design of World of Warcraft.
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Old 09-22-2025, 09:11 PM
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Old 09-22-2025, 09:58 PM
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EQ was not based on DikuMUD so much that it got sued for copying their code ... but there's also zero chance that all of the overlaps between the two games were coincidental:



So, as I said before:
Personally I think EverQuest was based on the Boston philharmonic chorus.

Do you have a webpage directly refuting that?

I do.
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Old 09-22-2025, 10:02 PM
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You refuted the idea that Verant derived their source code (directly) from DikuMUD ... but do you understand that EQ can nevertheless be derived DikuMUD, in other ways besides literal source code copying?
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Old 09-22-2025, 10:06 PM
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You guys ever play might and magic 6? Its fantastic and basically offline Everquest the RPG.

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You refuted the idea that Verant derived their source code (directly) from DikuMUD ... but do you understand that EQ can nevertheless be derived DikuMUD, in other ways besides literal source code copying?
*slaps you silly with a Red herring*

DIKU group thus no longer finds any reason what-so-ever to believe any of the rumors that EverQuest should be based on DikuMUD.
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Old 09-22-2025, 10:09 PM
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Old 09-22-2025, 10:26 PM
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Damn i just saw this youtube short and I looked up the game and well ill be damned Sonic the Hedge Hog looks to be a rip off of a unlicensed NES game Big Nose Freaks Out.

How on earth did a japanese sega developer play this obscure unlicensed American game nobody's ever heard of.

Total coincidence? What about the coincidence that I see this while this thread pops up! *twilight zone noises



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