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Old 12-24-2025, 08:36 AM
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Another few questions for all: Is acumen worth casting on self for long fights or is it just a junk buff?


What are your favorite junk buffs that stack with your 60 buffs?

Is avatar worth a self cast even though it only lasts 6 minutes?

What about voice of the berserker?
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Old 12-24-2025, 09:40 AM
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thank you!


Another few questions for all: Is acumen worth casting on self for long fights or is it just a junk buff?


What are your favorite junk buffs that stack with your 60 buffs?

Is avatar worth a self cast even though it only lasts 6 minutes?

What about voice of the berserker?
just load up with all of em right before timer - iirc seb is 27:00 respawns...you don't need gina i just used to use my phone....id set it for 24 mins, hit it right after mob dies, then just go afk...3 mins is plenty of time to come back and prep...hell set it for 20 mins if you want to be safe at first and when you gain confidence can tighten it up

organize your book with all the junkers you plan to use so you can quickly open book, slot em, buff, slot em off

bear form is also good junker, i wouldnt bother w/ avatar - if bear gets dispelled you dont have to worry about re-applying it, but its a definite edge for engage

right before spawn you should be in bear form, fully buffed, pet out and hasted

as soon as it pops, send pet, move right outside melee range

malo
slow spam til land
torpor yourself
melee w/ tash stick til proc (this is optional, can be done without, just helps, make sure you're dex buffed...torpor slows you so it should help get that proc out quick)
epic click
pox
bane
melee w/ epic (or jbb spam)

thats it - just keep yourself nice and healthy early and let the 3 dots do their work...just pay attention and be ready for when dots are about to expire...you'll get a feel for their timers even without gina....even refreshing pox a bit early if it times well with your mana / torpors / etc is fine....what you DONT want is to get caught out by damage and be worried about healing yourself / getting mana back with no DoTs on him...thats worst case scenario...when everything is super comfy why not throw a fresh pox / bane out...epic is different you want that last hit

make sure to refresh all dots before flee (epic first, then pox, then fresh bane right before...this will get your epic rolling to the bigger damage hits during flee), and then spam root i guess....idk why i dont remember him running but w/e

your approach was just all wrong....he literally casted his entire mana bar on you before you started doing damage...better to just come out swinging



edit: how does a shaman have torpor and doesnt know about top slot GCD click
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Old 12-24-2025, 10:07 AM
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I used Agility, Fire Resist, Charisma, Dex, Str, Whackumen as junk buffs to bury my Regrowth, Cold & Magic Resists, then Shadoo and Jacinth. Then Focus + Stamina.

kjs laid out the ideal cast order, that's exactly what I do. the only thing perhaps I recommend is using Malosini once Slow lands. If hes slowed, and youre slick - you can swap out Malo for Malosini between his swings. Could also do the same for Insidious Decay which will greatly reduce mana cost on failed Pox attempts.

Also - I recommend just sitting in the room with the pet up, like kjs said and coming back 3-5 mins before respawn to rebuff and mana up. Fight takes about 3-5 minutes, 27 mins between spawns.. So you can AFK for a good 20-24 minutes after 10 mins of action. It's actually a great camp for doing other things. (I once cleaned my entire apartment while spending the day at Hiero. 20 min bursts of cleaning between spawns for 12 hours with no cloak drop.. RIP)

The real tough part is if he flees at low HP. Perhaps putting him in the corner nearest the door helps, if the ICG is up - but the only times I've wiped on Grekal is when he flees at low HP and then root breaks early several times - then he runs out of the room, aggros the ICG and wipe city.
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Old 12-24-2025, 10:09 AM
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yeah i dont remember him fleeing for some reason....maybe room position idk....experiment...its been like 5 years since ive done this

also iirc paralyzing earth seemed to hold better than the others....but you could experiment with immobilize instead with the faster cast....i think once i got PE it was the only root i used
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Old 12-24-2025, 11:21 AM
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yeah i dont remember him fleeing for some reason....maybe room position idk....experiment...its been like 5 years since ive done this

also iirc paralyzing earth seemed to hold better than the others....but you could experiment with immobilize instead with the faster cast....i think once i got PE it was the only root i used
Yah, it has to be a positioning thing - I always tanked him in the corner opposite the door - but the problem with that spot is he will flee. Not sure if the ICGs CH Grekal, but I always assumed they did - so I tried to tank him away from them.

The wipes were those situations where flee started, then I rooted.. then root broke almost instantly, and then a resist on the next cast, etc etc.

Where did you tank him kjs?
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Old 12-24-2025, 11:35 AM
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Yah, it has to be a positioning thing - I always tanked him in the corner opposite the door - but the problem with that spot is he will flee. Not sure if the ICGs CH Grekal, but I always assumed they did - so I tried to tank him away from them.

The wipes were those situations where flee started, then I rooted.. then root broke almost instantly, and then a resist on the next cast, etc etc.

Where did you tank him kjs?
same spot i think

i never once wiped to a flee
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Old 12-24-2025, 12:00 PM
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Thank you both for the advice!

If I’m trying to hold down three spawns in the middle of the night or if I’m breaking the camp, I think I wouldn’t be able to use the pet because I’ll have to invis past the ICG. If I’m dad camping, yes I’ll do the pet method.

Another thought is that I could hold down two spawns on the same side and the ICG and keep the pet up with no invis needed. Mitigated the chance of an ICG aggro wipe as well.


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edit: how does a shaman have torpor and doesnt know about top slot GCD click
I mained a chanter to gear my Shaman. Spamming the same spell didn’t really come into play for me although thinking about it, maybe color slant in the top gem would be nice on a charm break and then a color slant resist.

I read a thread when I first started shamaning and it was a debate about the difference between standing with a gcd and canni dancing or alternating with sit in order to get more mana and health back with your ticks. I believe the thread ended with people agreeing that sitting was slightly better. If someone mentioned the top slot gem in that thread, it went over my head.

I canni danced all the way to 60 by alternating sit and canni. I could save a slot on my hotbar by sitting with the spell book. So I put canni in the bottom slot next to the spell book so I wouldn’t have to move my mouse too far. Spamming canni in the top gem has been so much better. It even makes rebuffing between fights so much faster. I love it


Edit:also I rarely group and just started streaming so there wasn’t really anyone to give me feedback on my canni dance. Also I just got torpor maybe a month ago and the mobs get a lot more difficult when you farm at 60. I was able to kill 5 cliff golems without using the top gem slot method but the loot drop rate was shit so I had to start looking for better loot. There has been Better loot in crypt, but a more difficult camp. Every new cash camp I learned on my chanter, I got a little bit better at using my class. I’m expecting the same will happen with my shaman.

Also to get to 60 I was just epic root rotting 4 mobs at once.
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Old 12-24-2025, 01:05 PM
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Thank you both for the advice!

If I’m trying to hold down three spawns in the middle of the night or if I’m breaking the camp, I think I wouldn’t be able to use the pet because I’ll have to invis past the ICG. If I’m dad camping, yes I’ll do the pet method.

Another thought is that I could hold down two spawns on the same side and the ICG and keep the pet up with no invis needed. Mitigated the chance of an ICG aggro wipe as well.




I mained a chanter to gear my Shaman. Spamming the same spell didn’t really come into play for me although thinking about it, maybe color slant in the top gem would be nice on a charm break and then a color slant resist.

I read a thread when I first started shamaning and it was a debate about the difference between standing with a gcd and canni dancing or alternating with sit in order to get more mana and health back with your ticks. I believe the thread ended with people agreeing that sitting was slightly better. If someone mentioned the top slot gem in that thread, it went over my head.

I canni danced all the way to 60 by alternating sit and canni. I could save a slot on my hotbar by sitting with the spell book. So I put canni in the bottom slot next to the spell book so I wouldn’t have to move my mouse too far. Spamming canni in the top gem has been so much better. It even makes rebuffing between fights so much faster. I love it


Edit:also I rarely group and just started streaming so there wasn’t really anyone to give me feedback on my canni dance. Also I just got torpor maybe a month ago and the mobs get a lot more difficult when you farm at 60. I was able to kill 5 cliff golems without using the top gem slot method but the loot drop rate was shit so I had to start looking for better loot. There has been Better loot in crypt, but a more difficult camp. Every new cash camp I learned on my chanter, I got a little bit better at using my class. I’m expecting the same will happen with my shaman.

Also to get to 60 I was just epic root rotting 4 mobs at once.
i never once danced my shaman

just hard spam canni and sit - itll preserve your sanity

why would camping both hiero and jbb not allow you to use a pet? just reclaim, move to other room, summon pet?
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Old 12-24-2025, 01:13 PM
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why would camping both hiero and jbb not allow you to use a pet? just reclaim, move to other room, summon pet?
Good point! I need a reclaim energy item though
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Old 12-24-2025, 01:33 PM
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Good point! I need a reclaim energy item though
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