Tips/tools to help track group buffs on players?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’d priorize casting on tanks if single target DS and cast on you for the FR and timer. If using the group spell, keep track of who is in the tank group so you aren’t duplicating efforts and you can still use the single version on yourself.

At minimum, just make sure the MT’s have it going into a boss fight. 100% upkeep on trash isn’t as important unless it’s like the last wave of a ring war. Keeping everyone DS’d during HoT won’t be easy and you need the mana for other stuff (like mid raid coths). If people need the FR for that, they need to invest in some SV gear.

Indeed. I was a bit suprised that Aegis of Ro was being used on multiple groups for resists. I guess resistance fear requirements may not be as strict in OP's guild.

[TheBlob]

We have zero resistance requirement in The Second Sons.

Concerning casting the buff on myself, I don't know if it's the same with other group buffs, but when I cast it on myself, then switch target with F7, the buff will land on the group as well as myself, so I don't need to cast it on myself separatedly. However, my Aegis of Ro will be timed with the last group I refreshed, so it might be a good idea to cast Cadeau of Flame (same timer) on me first to see when the first group needs the Aegis refreshed, if that was what you meant.

Concerning the responsibility of a single person to keep the raid buffed without getting tells, it is a challenge I am giving myself. As a magician main, and most often the only magician in the raid (except for the CotHs in the beginning), the main things I do are:

1) If advisable for the zone/target, send pet for a little DPS and manage positioning.
2) Summon mod rods behind clerics
3) If needed, summon Cancel Magic Sticks and give one to as much people as I can, managing the "Why are you giving me that?" and explaining that pullers need many of them and it's lore so I can't hoard them on myself and to give it to pullers when they ask.
4) DS on main tank but, against fire AoE mobs, Aegis of Ro on everyone in range of mob.

Since magician is a pretty simple (although very unique in raids, in my opinion) class to play, I'd like to be as good as I can in these roles, and I would be proud to be able to do all that without needing to be asked, so the raid can move smoother/faster. Also, the idea of sending tells is good when the buff lasts 30 min or more, but for a 6 min buff it would require a lot of tells. Keeping the raid buffed without needing to be asked also gives me something to do hahaha

I like the idea of having one designated person per group, but I'm not sure how I can manage that. "Can ONE person per group send me a tell so I know how many groups there are for Mass FR purposes"? I think I would ask group leaders to send me a tell not to refresh buffs, but only to know which group is which. Asking group leaders would also prevent groups where everyone doesn't know if they should be the one to send me a tell (and I receive no tell) or where I receive multiple tells. This might work. I'll start of course by having a designated window and see how it goes. I'll try this, maybe tomorrow, during our weekly HoT and tell you how it goes.

Concerning nParse, what does it do?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by TheBlob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Concerning nParse, what does it do?

With regards to nParse, there are programs that read your log files. That is how programs like Gina work, and they are legal on P99.

You could have AI write a program for you that reads your logs and helps you keep track that way.

The program could work like this:

1. Have a macro in p99 with /w guild to get the list of players, and you say "update player list" so the program knows the /w is for that purpose.

2. Have a macro in p99 saying "start aegis of ro buff timer". The program will create an array with all of the names in the /w guild list, and a 6 minute timer.

3. When the program detects the Aegis of Ro message "Someone is enveloped by the Aegis of Ro.", it will remove those players from the array.

4. Repeat buffing until the array of names is empty.

5. This program could display the list of names not yet buffed for you in a window if you have multiple monitors.

6. Every 6 minutes the list of names is repopulated with the names from step 1.

[Snaggles]

I certainly don’t think it’s a bad thing to hand out extra damage shields, especially if aggro will be messy and they get some bonus FR. People rarely run DS’ in ring wars which blows my mind.

It’s just a matter of what’s the next step/target and casting a bunch of group spells for a class with mana recovery issues might be regrettable. Every cothed PC is a boost to the raid. Also, the more you cast group DS spells, the greater the chance you will take faction hits that need to be corrected in Kael.

IMHO the way to have fun and max out a mage is to get the DA stuff and be open to helping your raid bypass targets with train-aways.

Also as a FYI you can just cast on other groups (TGB might need to be on) without the tab to self and back. That’s really only needed when trying to throw it on a low level player that you don’t want to group with first. I know if you do that to any less than full group you get the buff as well, maybe it works for full groups too, I just can’t recall.

[Snaggles]

Also, for what it’s worth having SV gear and worts is crazy important for non-tanks. I recently picked up a white, green and black flower on the cheap. Last quake tried to max out SV’s without a bard. Fire is the tougher of them (I hit 250 with the Baton pf Flame equipped) since the white/cold flower stacks with circles.

I’m not saying SV’s should be a raid requirement but it’s going to make you melt faster on AE’s, get more torps (or deaths) and ultimately do less dps than flinching them away and keeping your hps up.