Who will be going from Blue99 to Red99?

[Tamiah2011]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All Hail Demetrium the Blue Prophet.


Handing in the PoD book on a blue server still makes you blue. One of the biggest reasons to play on red is to contest spawns, whether it be orc trainer hill, BnB, Naggy etc. That simply cannot happen with 80% of the population remaining blue on the blue server. Nice try though!

Red99 will not be a ghost town, that is a laughable, desperate assumption from someone that sounds afraid of losing members from the blue server. Classic EQ only requires 200-300 players to make the zones feel fairly populated. I would be more than happy to see those numbers in a month or two, but if Rogean and Nilbog can get a thumb on detecting mq2/seq again before release, I will assure you that it will grow higher.

This is a chance for all you blue players to experience a completely new style of EQ gameplay. Most of us are reliving the exact same experience as we did in 1999-2001, why not relive that experience you loved with a new dynamic thrown in? No more poop socking and "LOLOL WE GOT TRAK THIS WEEK" threads, instead, you faceroll the competition, get the loots, shake hands and meet again the next week for more.

Why you so mad at red brew? There is well over 15 people being vocal for a red server, and countless more that don't come to this forum and/or aren't vocal about it. Obviously this is the case if Rogean and Nil. are working on a red server, don't you think? I mean, are you calling them idiots to say that they are making this server just for it to be a flop? They managed P99 just fine, what makes you think they'll fuck up R99?

Please noob lol what would you know about pvp.Bardalicious is this going be your name on pvp noob?

[Runningfish]

Originally Posted by Fists [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If there is item loot, or even coin loot, I'll head over to Red99. If not, i'll stay here. EQ pvp is cool and all, but if theres no risk for reward then why bother with farming everything I have again. I played on Rallos Zek, since the get go with Flowers, and the item loot dynamic made PVP an unreal and addictive experience.

I agree, I'll play if they have item loot. Just adds so much more excitement to it.. Knowing you can lose that uber item at any moment or looting something awesome after winning a tough fight. That's what it's all about, otherwise it's just even more pointless ganking.

[Demetrium]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why you so mad at red brew?

And I had gone so long without hearing "you mad?"; am I on the wrong tab surfing the WoW forums on accident?

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Red99 will not be a ghost town, that is a laughable, desperate assumption from someone that sounds afraid of losing members from the blue server. Classic EQ only requires 200-300 players to make the zones feel fairly populated. I would be more than happy to see those numbers in a month or two, but if Rogean and Nilbog can get a thumb on detecting mq2/seq again before release, I will assure you that it will grow higher.

I'm a 55 unguilded Necro, I couldn't care less about how many people are around. I have a bunch of friends from Live here and I can group with them when I feel like it. I'm only around here until Diablo 3 launches anyway; this is a stop-gap for me. I'm having fun exploring the rest of the game I missed the first time around.

200-300 players at prime? I think you're grasping at straws. 200-300 at prime means 50-150 non-prime. Guess how many contested spawns have spawntime variance? Your hypothetical competition is going to exist only on small camps if at all. Even then, are you really so exited over this?

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a chance for all you blue players to experience a completely new style of EQ gameplay. Most of us are reliving the exact same experience as we did in 1999-2001, why not relive that experience you loved with a new dynamic thrown in? No more poop socking and "LOLOL WE GOT TRAK THIS WEEK" threads, instead, you faceroll the competition, get the loots, shake hands and meet again the next week for more.

Like I said above I'm pretty sure you're being delusional. The game isn't built for PvP. You can argue balance until you're blue in the face but the engine just isn't built for it. I'm sure there's niche players like yourself who enjoy it, and that's great...you're just a minority. If you're so competitive why not play something relevant? Are you planning on running around town shouting that you pwned someone in an emulation of a 12 year old game?

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why you so mad at red brew? There is well over 15 people being vocal for a red server, and countless more that don't come to this forum and/or aren't vocal about it. Obviously this is the case if Rogean and Nil. are working on a red server, don't you think? I mean, are you calling them idiots to say that they are making this server just for it to be a flop? They managed P99 just fine, what makes you think they'll fuck up R99?

Squeakiest wheel gets the grease. You guys are like the libertarian party. You make a lot of noise but you'll never get someone elected. Also, don't straw-man me, broseph. I never called Rogean or Nil idiots, nor did I say they would "fuck up R99".

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by purist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

purist will stake his claim to internet fame on red99

rofl...hiding of course, too scared to post who you are on P99...yet think you'll be doing anything in pvp...

Anyways, I had plans to play on R99 up until this whole debacle with cheaters being treated like royalty. With Uthgaard gone as well I don't foresee any legitimacy coming from R99.

It will be another disgusting cesspool, a la vztz, but with more people.

[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by Demetrium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

200-300 players at prime? I think you're grasping at straws. 200-300 at prime means 50-150 non-prime. Guess how many contested spawns have spawntime variance? Your hypothetical competition is going to exist only on small camps if at all. Even then, are you really so exited over this?



Like I said above I'm pretty sure you're being delusional. The game isn't built for PvP. You can argue balance until you're blue in the face but the engine just isn't built for it. I'm sure there's niche players like yourself who enjoy it, and that's great...you're just a minority. If you're so competitive why not play something relevant? Are you planning on running around town shouting that you pwned someone in an emulation of a 12 year old game?

Tell "this game isn't meant for PVP" to the 10,000+ players that enjoyed it on EQLive over the years. You're acting as if this hasn't been done before and succeeded.

Stating that you are mad is probably fairly accurate, because tbh, you sound more than a little spiteful towards the idea of EQ PVP in general. If you're not even going to be playing on P99 any more - what the fuck does it matter to you if Red99 is released? Why give your 2 cents when you have no intentions of playing on either server?

The shitty VZTZ server pulled over 100 players on prime time. You're making baseless claims about a ghost town population on what is being hyped as the best PVP server since live, which will be even better if they can get a handle on MQ2/SEQ detection again before release.

There will be no competition for raid targets? Really? Rofl. You can tell that to the VZTZ crew as well. They had it with just their community alone, and Red99 is sure to encompass P99 players and many others as well from places like FoH etc. I don't think you have an accurate understanding of what sort of population vanilla EQ needs to be successful. Prior to Kunark releasing on P99, the population was usually around 300-400 on average, and I can assure you, guilds were still fighting over spawns all the time. Then Kunark landed, the server hit 1000 players for a short time, and you literally had to fight for spawns in all of the popular zones. And that was with a whole other expansion added.

So again, I ask, why you so mad at red?

[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by Demetrium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you're so competitive why not play something relevant? Are you planning on running around town shouting that you pwned someone in an emulation of a 12 year old game?

I almost overlooked that line. Now I KNOW you're just mad. Planning to run around enjoying PVP in a 12 year old game as compared to you running around farming pixels and xp in a 12 year old game? Your arguments are baseless and pretty lol-worthy, pal.

[mokfarg]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All Hail Demetrium the Blue Prophet.



Why you so mad at red brew? There is well over 15 people being vocal for a red server, and countless more that don't come to this forum and/or aren't vocal about it. Obviously this is the case if Rogean and Nil. are working on a red server, don't you think? I mean, are you calling them idiots to say that they are making this server just for it to be a flop? They managed P99 just fine, what makes you think they'll fuck up R99?

I chose stay where I am because there is only so much childish leet speak I can handle.

[Foxx]

i am quitting due to cheaters, unless u wipe it clean

[Aenor]

Originally Posted by Demetrium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honest question: What's stopping you Red99 fanatics from just turning in your Tome of Order and Discord today and PvPing on the original server?

I've thought about this a bit and only really came up with two ideas.
1) Clean start
2) So you can "fight" over camps and spawns

Honest answer, yes, we want to compete for spawns on equal terms, not be a hopeless minority that can never compete for contested spawns against blues and their vastly greater numbers.

Originally Posted by Demetrium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) Do you think there will be any fewer cheaters on Red99 than there is here? If this server is going to be administered by the same people running Blue99 are you actually expecting different results?

So far over 400 blue players have been suspended or permanently banned in the last 7 days for hacking. At its height I don't think VZTZ had much over 200 players at prime time, which would probably indicate around 400 players in a 24 hour cycle. So unless you are suggesting that ALL PvPers are hackers, then I would say no, we have fewer cheaters than P99.

Originally Posted by Demetrium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2) Is there actually going to be enough people to even compete for spawns on Red99? If you had similar prime-time numbers to Blue99 sure, but I'm thinking you won't.

We had massive warfare over spawns with a fraction of R99's population so the obvious answer is yes. I expect that Red 99 will have approximately double the population VZTZ had at its height due to P99's reputation.[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Demetrium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why not just turn in your books and duke it out now, as-is? Just a little tired of the same 15 people on the forums only ever having Red99 related material flying out of their pie-holes.

There's a good way to shut those pie-holes up. Stop being a bunch of hacking scumbags and having constant drama so the devs can focus on Velious and launching the PVP server. Once we have a server to play on it will be crickets chirping in here.

[Demetrium]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tell "this game isn't meant for PVP" to the 10,000+ players that enjoyed it on EQLive over the years. You're acting as if this hasn't been done before and succeeded.

Stating that you are mad is probably fairly accurate, because tbh, you sound more than a little spiteful towards the idea of EQ PVP in general. If you're not even going to be playing on P99 any more - what the fuck does it matter to you if Red99 is released? Why give your 2 cents when you have no intentions of playing on either server?

The shitty VZTZ server pulled over 100 players on prime time. You're making baseless claims about a ghost town population on what is being hyped as the best PVP server since live, which will be even better if they can get a handle on MQ2/SEQ detection again before release.

There will be no competition for raid targets? Really? Rofl. You can tell that to the VZTZ crew as well. They had it with just their community alone, and Red99 is sure to encompass P99 players and many others as well from places like FoH etc. I don't think you have an accurate understanding of what sort of population vanilla EQ needs to be successful. Prior to Kunark releasing on P99, the population was usually around 300-400 on average, and I can assure you, guilds were still fighting over spawns all the time. Then Kunark landed, the server hit 1000 players for a short time, and you literally had to fight for spawns in all of the popular zones. And that was with a whole other expansion added.

So again, I ask, why you so mad at red?

Pretty sure anyone who reads this thread understands you're the one who seems upset.

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