The XP deal

[Srs Not Ames]

lol

[Amuk]

Didn't read the thread, I was part of the "this server is doomed crowd" but after the last few days - regular guild fights between Nihil and Holo the server will be fine. Tough out the exp, it sucked even with regular grps daily - when you get to 50 it's pretty fun and once more people hit 50 it's only going to get better.

[jrwriter]

I'm think Grp xp bonus is good idea not huge bonus just like 10 percent added

[Uthgaard]

Originally Posted by Palemoon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Give it up. "faster xp" is not going to bring people here, just make some existing players say "oh this is just another ez emu" and leave.

EQ is about the journey, not rush a dozen alts to max level.

If you want faster xp, try WoW.

Actually you're wrong on both halves of that coin. People are leaving because of the xp rate. People won't commit because of the xp rate. Your personal experience is not universal, or even the majority in this case. If you think otherwise, you are out of touch with the playerbase on the whole (not just your circle of friends).

[Palemoon]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually you're wrong on both halves of that coin. People are leaving because of the xp rate. People won't commit because of the xp rate. Your personal experience is not universal, or even the majority in this case. If you think otherwise, you are out of touch with the playerbase on the whole (not just your circle of friends).

OK but what are we trying to do here? Recreate and preserve the harsh world of EQ red, or chase those sub numbers that started EQ down that long road to mercenaries and instances?

A few of your latest posts have that "lets compromise to boost subs/players" ring to it that I guess was a nessessary evil for games like EQ2 and Vanguard, but why here?

So the grind is hard, its not for everyone, we've lost players on account of it. Ok, lets put corpse runs to a vote too like Vulak and Fippy did , in the name of keeping population up?

What is the argument here? The classic xp grind on a classic server is too hard for most players? We knew this. Is making xp faster really on the table? Please say that is not so. Faster xp for the blue server too?

[Steaks]

exp needs to be increased

not by 25%

it needs to be doubled at the bare minimum

preferably about half of what it was on beta

and not in 3 months , now

or may as well unplug the box dudes

[Uthgaard]

Originally Posted by Palemoon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OK but what are we trying to do here? Recreate and preserve the harsh world of EQ red, or chase those sub numbers that started EQ down that long road to mercenaries and instances?

A few of your latest posts have that "lets compromise to boost subs/players" ring to it that I guess was a nessessary evil for games like EQ2 and Vanguard, but why here?

So the grind is hard, its not for everyone, we've lost players on account of it. Ok, lets put corpse runs to a vote too like Vulak and Fippy did , in the name of keeping population up?

What is the argument here? The classic xp grind on a classic server is too hard for most players? We knew this. Is making xp faster really on the table? Please say that is not so. Faster xp for the blue server too?

There aren't enough people to make a viable community with groups for people to join. When people attempt to join the server, one of the first and most important things they ask is whether or not there are groups around to join. Whether or not there are groups around to join is a function of how many people enjoy the game, which is a function of how many people the game appeals to.

You're trying to claim that slower xp rates are superior because...? I didn't catch that part at all. You're also making ridiculous reductio ad absurdum analogies that don't apply at all to the suggestions being made.

[SearyxTZ]

People aren't complaining or passing on the server due to corpse runs.

The feedback I've seen in talking to numerous former TZ/VZTZ players has been near-unanimous: the exp grind is too slow. The only reason people put up with it on blue is because they can run to EC and merchantquest or beg for buffs. This isn't blue.

IMO the best possible solution is that early level exp gets boosted. Curbing 1-20 to 30 hours instead of 60 is not going to turn the server into WoW. That's still a brutal "classic" grind, but it's enough of an adjustment to not ostracize a lot of the potential casual players.

[Uthgaard]

Originally Posted by Palemoon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I said effects groups and subs, not that overall subs were going down. I remember sitting in seb on my troll SK waiting for groups to decide if they wanted to deal with my xp penalty, or not. Back in classic.

I'm sure Im not the only one who took a break and bitched about it in feedback/forums when it all dawned on us at that time what was going on.

Then it was changed.

My point is , we are at the point in the timeline where "its all dawned on us" and it effects groups (and "subs"). I see this everyday in game, the snide comments from group members, how they are "doing me a favor" etc. Not asking for a lifting of the penalty , just that we (hybrids) carry it alone, so it dosent distrupt the social aspect of the game for us (grouping).

Actually, do you even know what you think? Not 2 weeks ago in another thread (see above), you were begging for your hybrid penalty to go away because beovvulf wouldnt let you join a group, in the name of subscriptions. You can't expect anyone to take you seriously making arguments like a hypocrite. Go confuse yourself with a faction table.

[Slave]

December 31, 2011: Uthgaard comes out for XP bonus on R99.

December 21, 2012: The world ends.

Coincidence...?