Idea to stop all the fighting

[Leokaiser]

Instances are rather contrary to the overall design of EQ which puts the MMO part before the RPG part - instances make sense from a gameplay standpoint but not so much for that 'all players in one world' feel.

As an aside though:

Originally Posted by Hmotzart [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IMO not everyone deserves to see endgame content in a game. If you cant make it to the boss in your guild. Might think about helping your guild get better so you can get there or go play a bottlefed game where anyone with 2iq and 1 finger can kill the last boss in the game. goodbye and goodluck

This makes me scratch my head. Did you kill C'thun or Kil'Jaden during their relevant eras? Do you think even average players managed to do?

Instancing has nothing to do with difficulty, except in cases where the actual content is easy and the only challenge revolves around there not being enough of it for everyone. You are free to like either design, but there is no need to insult others due to their preference.

[Grozmok]

Originally Posted by Leokaiser [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Instances are rather contrary to the overall design of EQ which puts the MMO part before the RPG part - instances make sense from a gameplay standpoint but not so much for that 'all players in one world' feel.

Uh, until this?:

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The whole expansion was a series of instances.

[Leokaiser]

I thought it would be taken as read that I mean 'classic' EQ on these forums [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Edit: Expanding on this - It seems many of the features that came in after Velious which people rail most strongly against are those which detract from the aforementioned 'one huge world' feeling and those which cut out some social interaction, such as Nexus/PoK for automated transport instant, Bazzar for automated selling. One could argue that LDoN took that to another level.

[Versus]

Originally Posted by Grozmok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uh, until this?:

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The whole expansion was a series of instances.

^Why I quit EQ. Fuck instances. Fuck them in the asshole.

[username1337]

Originally Posted by Hmotzart [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IMO not everyone deserves to see endgame content in a game. If you cant make it to the boss in your guild. Might think about helping your guild get better so you can get there or go play a bottlefed game where anyone with 2iq and 1 finger can kill the last boss in the game. goodbye and goodluck

Ever play a game with instance raids? Not all of them are as trivial as you may believe.

Competition in classic EQ and P1999 is about who plays the longest and who has the best batphone organization. The raid targets themselves are trivial to defeat.

[Flunklesnarkin]

Originally Posted by username1337 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ever play a game with instance raids? Not all of them are as trivial as you may believe.

Competition in classic EQ and P1999 is about who plays the longest and who has the best batphone organization. The raid targets themselves are trivial to defeat.

[Danyelle]

BUT ISN'T CLASSIC BRO! Why would anyone want anything at all that isn't Classic?

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Danyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BUT ISN'T CLASSIC BRO! Why would anyone want anything at all that isn't Classic?

sarcasm?

[Danyelle]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sarcasm?

You should know me well enough by now to answer that, Stealin :P

[Maultriss]

I don't want instances and I like competition. I think better sportsmanship all around would be a wind of good change on this server though. It all starts with me right? I for sure felt myself falling into the hate spiral and I can't handle the vitriol anymore from any side. Good sportsmanship on all sides could transform this server into something even better.

I learned it in like 3rd grade soccer, shake the hand of your competitor after a game regardless of how it went. You all end up at Dairy Queen with ice cream cones after anyway. I plan on living by what I learned a long time ago.

Instances would probably make me quit. Instances on live were a little different because the challenge came from trying targets that were ridiculously hard. The thrill was in the conquering of a new harder boss, not the race and chase. Here, not so much. Sure, there is thrill in killing a new mob but not the challenge of some of the raid targets in instances on live. Instances here would be mind numbingly boring. The fighting can be solved by the hundereds of adults that play here, me included.