Detailed Rogue Guide

[PearlJammzz]

Originally Posted by Weekapaug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If memory serves, you can also work Beg and Disarm into the same key, but I think two of the 3 may be on the same refresh....My live account isn't active so I can't check, but try it out. Not sure if they all stack or not, but at least you have a shot at getting a check on one of them in a pinch, if nothing else.

I have this, and no skillup in beg. It works, however, if the mob isn't engaged. Appears that beg isn't skilling up/working on aggro'd mobs.

[guineapig]

You have to

/attack (turning it off)
/ beg command
/attack

In order to do this while fighting.

[Pyrocat]

Originally Posted by Phil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Awesome stuff. Had no idea that pickpocket generated hate. Some of this stuff I'm already past...I rolled Dwarf mostly for nostalgia's sake on faydwer (<3 crushbone and unrest). Also I split my points more evenly between str and sta (think I fell like 10 short of maxing sta). Oh well.

What's a good way to skill pick lock? I'm level 14 now and I haven't really touched it.

I assume that to get the MoD I just hang out and request to loot it from a group that's camping down there? Is it a fairly popular spawn? Seems far out of my way at this point seeing as I'm still bound in gfay.

Also, is there anything worth using trains on? It seems like most of my necessary skills are rather easy to train so I haven't spent too many of my training points. Should I save them for something luxurious like a tradeskill or language? Should I be lazy with skills like pick lock/bind wound? Is there perhaps skills down the line worth saving them for?

Just discovered today (at level 14) that backstab gives an extra attack from the front. There's so much more to this class than meets the eye (very clever, developers).

Save your skill points! If you ever (way way down the line, when you've got a ton of extra cash to spend) want to skill up poison, you'll want to use them all on Apply Poison. Every combat skill, and even pick pocket and pick lock will go up fast on their own. Bind Wound is the only one I would consider spending them on early on, but it's always good to have a reserve of points to spend.

You can skill up your pick lock skill to max on any door you can open with pick lock. The door with the lowest skill requirement is in Befallen. If you're just entering the zone and looking at the main room with 4 doors, it's in the door in the back and on the left. Just hide/sneak up to it and spam "U" or spam click the door. Make sure you bought lock picks from your local rogue/bard guild and have them on your cursor. You should only need a skill of 11 in Pick Lock to open the door in Befallen, so first make sure it's that high and then go hog wild. Remember your Pick Lock skill is capped at a similar level to your combat skills, so you won't be able to max it out until level 39.

There's a list of what doors are locked and the pick lock skill required to pick them on page 2 of this thread:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...?t=5006&page=2

[Pyrocat]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty much all of this is right on, but I would make a couple slight changes/clarifications:
STR to 188 then HP > STA > AC > AGI > DEX (188 + SHM buff [+67] = 255, HP being next most important, STA supports HP, then AC and AGI supports AC [but not nearly as well as STA supports HP], then DEX only if you would use the item for STR/HP/AC anyway - DEX is worthless unless you're a proc rogue [and you're not.. ..RIGHT??])
Polished Steel Dirk is CHEAP and 8/23 > SBD's 8/27
Diamondine Earrings > 4str/2int
Runed Lava Pendant > 7str/7int
Jagged Bands are very nice until you can afford/obtain 2 5AC/55hp rings, and eventually a Djarn's Amethyst Ring.

I was told that the Polished Steel Dirk no longer drops. I saw it auctioning for 2kpp last night, so I don't think it's quite so cheap anymore. Diamondine Earrings are definitely better than 4str/2int but in most cases the Jewelry option is cheaper and much easier to obtain.

I would argue that DEX is useful for skilling up combat skills, and offhand procs aren't always a bad thing, but yeah HP is more important.

[CPTMULLER]

Originally Posted by Pyrocat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was told that the Polished Steel Dirk no longer drops. I saw it auctioning for 2kpp last night, so I don't think it's quite so cheap anymore. Diamondine Earrings are definitely better than 4str/2int but in most cases the Jewelry option is cheaper and much easier to obtain.

I would argue that DEX is useful for skilling up combat skills, and offhand procs aren't always a bad thing, but yeah HP is more important.

I bought one for 250 2 days ago [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Pyrocat]

/shrug

Can anyone confirm/deny that they still drop?

[Weekapaug]

Originally Posted by PearlJammzz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have this, and no skillup in beg. It works, however, if the mob isn't engaged. Appears that beg isn't skilling up/working on aggro'd mobs.

I've noticed the same thing on my warrior, but I've mostly been killing skeletons and non-humaniods (I assume beg works on the same rules as PP for that?) so dunno. I put a point of training into beg just to be safe, but will need to watch it for a bit to say for sure.

No skillups either, though.

[km2783]

Evade is not Classic. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was introduced after Plane of Sky. I can has patch notes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/history/patches.html

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Pyrocat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was told that the Polished Steel Dirk no longer drops.

I had not heard that.

In that case, I would try for a Glowing Iron Pike / Electrum Bladed Wakizashi combo or a Burning Rapier in your offhand (even though it procs, its not a horribly aggro generating proc like SBD). Try and find a Gloomwater Harpoon in your price range.. Once you hit 46, any number of nice guilds will let you sit in for Fear so you can snag an Eyerazzia.

Ratio in your mainhand is definitely not king, go for a higher damage # even if the ratio is not as good.

[Swashbuckler]

Was deciding on a main and went with a Barb Rogue after seeing this thread. 3 yellows from that precious backstab. I think SBD starts procing at lvl 27 and not 30 unfortunately [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

Any particular recommendation for leveling backstab when I get it? Should I just put 1 point into it and use it as much as I can or dump a bunch of points into it?