PvP exp loss

[SearyxTZ]

Originally Posted by Tr0llb0rn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Items represent a time investment, coin represents a time investment, and so does XP.

The reward is costing your enemy some time, setting them back. Making them just that much weaker and (hopefully) you that much stronger as you maintain your xp flow, plat farm, item camp,etc. (whatever you were doing/pvping over).

No, dude, the reward is getting an item or getting coin.

You don't get exp for killing someone, for the obvious (exploitable) reasons. So we are left with half of the equation and it leaving a sour taste for most players. It's fairly important to include high reward alongside harsher penalties. One without the other never works too well.

[r0xx0r]

i like the exp loss from pvp- i have yet to kill anyone myself and have died plenty of times. I just started playing on p99 red. The exp loss from pvp is very minor compared to the lost exp from pve. This was put into place on the live servers to avoid the ol' trick of killing urself to avoid exp loss. it was put into place around velious era I think. And for a good reason. If there was no exp loss from death ppl would just be pulling trains like crazy and if any goes wrong they'd just nuke/manastone/modrod or have buddies kill em (kill shot is all that matters) so please don't remove the exp loss. But hey- that's my opinion ;p


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[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by SearyxTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yet it's not significant enough to prevent bind rushing especially from anyone who is max level. Does half a level matter when you're already at the cap? No.

It does matter. I would quantify my PVE/PVP proportions as such: 10%/90%

Meaning how much time i would spend on each if it was my call.

Well, im 50 and i dont even fucking pvp alot unless there is something like equal chances because i dont want to regrind that xp back and throw off the PVE/PVP ratio.

Of course it means i get bored because not only I am judging every encounter like "is this attempt worth risking the xp loss", everybody does so pvp happens alot less than it would without it.

Result: quit the server because pvp isnt happening as much as id like to and im bored as fuck.

Yes, you are right trollborn, it prevents "bind rushing" aka pvp from happening alot.

But i dont honestly count on the devs to act on this, its been explained in and out for months and months.

So you dont have anything to worry about Trollborn, you sitting in a raid zone for months with 30 other PVEers undisputed, shielded from pvp with sheer numbers, even if it means playing on a server with a peak population of 50, is probably not in jeopardy.

[Tradesonred]

Fact is: We'll have a dead server sooner than later if this isnt changed, no new blood is going to stick around with the only pvp to be got will be to get their asses handed to them by twinks.

At least if they dont lose xp in the process, they MIGHT stick around.

I will fuck around with Kunark a bit, but theres no way im going to stay even mid term if its the same thing than classic with nobody challenging Nihilum end game because of xp loss, and high chances it will be this way if xp loss stays.

[Cars]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fact is: We'll have a dead server sooner than later if this isnt changed, no new blood is going to stick around with the only pvp to be got will be to get their asses handed to them by twinks.

At least if they dont lose xp in the process, they MIGHT stick around.

I will fuck around with Kunark a bit, but theres no way im going to stay even mid term if its the same thing than classic with nobody challenging Nihilum end game because of xp loss, and high chances it will be this way if xp loss stays.

I am brand new to PvP, I have been merc'd quite a few times and the xp loss doesnt bother me at all. Start taking my items and I will quit

[Tr0llb0rn]

Originally Posted by Cars [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am brand new to PvP, I have been merc'd quite a few times and the xp loss doesnt bother me at all. Start taking my items and I will quit

tradesonred, please read this quote again from a brand new pvp player.

The xp loss is trivial.

You are worried about nihilum (or whoever) farming raid zones for gear edge? then STFU and do something about it.

I repeat: Even new players to the server think the xp loss is trivial, you are just full of excuses.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Tr0llb0rn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

tradesonred, please read this quote again from a brand new pvp player.

The xp loss is trivial.

You are worried about nihilum (or whoever) farming raid zones for gear edge? then STFU and do something about it.

I repeat: Even new players to the server think the xp loss is trivial, you are just full of excuses.

Im not worried, i know nobody will challenge you unless they zerg back to close to your numbers, and thats not likely to happen.

Even if they did, wed have the same problem, one zerg guild strangleholding raid zones forever with no contest.

I dont even care anymore, i know what will happen, ill just have my fun for a month and quit when the box dies again. Just would rather box stay alive, pvp would happen more and i could stick around cuz im having fun.

[Rushmore]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im not worried, i know nobody will challenge you unless they zerg back to close to your numbers, and thats not likely to happen.

Even if they did, wed have the same problem, one zerg guild strangleholding raid zones forever with no contest.

I dont even care anymore, i know what will happen, ill just have my fun for a month and quit when the box dies again. Just would rather box stay alive, pvp would happen more and i could stick around cuz im having fun.

That's not the attitude. Would love to have a conversation with you in Mumble or whatever in the future! I'll be around! 1st goal is to get as many to 50 as possible. So people with hundred alts need to focus on one toon and help others get there first!

[Nirgon]

Not as stingy as losing a piece diamond jewelry cuz you're a derpy fuck nuts AFK cuz you're used to no pvp.

[Tr0llb0rn]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not as stingy as losing a piece diamond jewelry cuz you're a derpy fuck nuts AFK cuz you're used to no pvp.

^^^

Originally Posted by SamwiseBanned [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

only people who want item loot are people who dont play and wizards.

so true