Starting Enchanter need help please :)

[km2783]

Because every caster in the game is going to be killing Trak and getting that robe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Even the ones doing high end content.

I'd never put points into a stat hoping for an item I might not even have the chance to roll on. However, the rest of the argument is valid. There are TONS of high Int and Cha items out there. At 29 Enchanters do get Clarity, so arguments can be made for having 25 extra Stamina.

If you can twink the character with Int/Cha gear, dumping all points possible into Sta has possibilities. If you can't, lower levels are going to be rough. They're rough enough with the meager gear I've managed to scrape together so far [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I'd be curious to know/see just how much HP and extra 25 Sta adds at lvl 50 to a caster.

[Thac0]

Originally Posted by AR3151 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

unless you are a necro or shaman i dont see how STA is that important for end game casters..... i would rather have STR (once you max out INT)for carrying more shit when im grinding levels.

I dont understand this. Enchanters get str Buffs to take care of low str. They get forms that grant extra str if you get low str. You can trade clarity for mage no rent bags if you are that hard up. Putting points into str makes no sense whatsoever

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Originally Posted by thaco

You will have encounters with AOEs that will hit you regardless of your wis/int/char so stam will keep you alive longer even though you "think" the returns on it are small.

When Kunark lands you also get the Mana Robe that converts hps to mana.

I gave a reason for the stat selections so the only reason you can come about your conclusion is if you did not read my post.

[Thac0]

Originally Posted by km2783 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because every caster in the game is going to be killing Trak and getting that robe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Even the ones doing high end content.

I'd never put points into a stat hoping for an item I might not even have the chance to roll on. However, the rest of the argument is valid. There are TONS of high Int and Cha items out there. At 29 Enchanters do get Clarity, so arguments can be made for having 25 extra Stamina.

If you can twink the character with Int/Cha gear, dumping all points possible into Sta has possibilities. If you can't, lower levels are going to be rough. They're rough enough with the meager gear I've managed to scrape together so far [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I'd be curious to know/see just how much HP and extra 25 Sta adds at lvl 50 to a caster.

Its true that not everyone is going to get a trak robe, but everyone can stand for more hps and the bottom line is every stat BUT stam can be capped even pre kunak. Why put points into something thats easy to cap before expansions with better gear with better stats?

But again if you know you will never see any gear in kunark or velious or never play enough to get to that point then yeah, any stat and any race cause it really wont matter at that level of play.

[AR3151]

Originally Posted by Thac0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dont understand this. Enchanters get str Buffs to take care of low str. They get forms that grant extra str if you get low str. You can trade clarity for mage no rent bags if you are that hard up. Putting points into str makes no sense whatsoever

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I gave a reason for the stat selections so the only reason you can come about your conclusion is if you did not read my post.

i was commenting on how you were saying STA is the end game stat for casters....

i dont agree, if you have/want to dump extra points into a STA i would do STR for farming/making money once you cap INT.

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by AR3151 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i was commenting on how you were saying STA is the end game stat for casters....

i dont agree, if you have/want to dump extra points into a STA i would do STR for farming/making money once you cap INT.

Might have some problems carrying away your loot from raid bosses when you go tits up from AE. Just sayin.

[Thac0]

Originally Posted by astarothel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Might have some problems carrying away your loot from raid bosses when you go tits up from AE. Just sayin.

Asta gets it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by AR3151 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i dont know what kind of casters other people play, but i play the safer way and not take hits....we do wear robes afterall.

You do realize we are talking about enchanters right?

Enchanters get hit constantly by mobs. But we roll with it!
Hitpoints and armor class are by far our most important stats, followed by charisma (which can easily be maxed with gear).

[pickled_heretic]

if this is your first character on the server and you're not getting twinked, you shouldn't worry about endgame stats because this game is enough of a pain in the ass for the first 49 levels without minmaxing for the last one.

[redghosthunter]

Ya i made my DEF ENC, with STA then last few points CHA. CHA gear is easy to come bye. I basically picked race on ENJOYMENT OF ROLEPLAYING

Best help i can give a newbie ENC is make a NEC, :P U got a very tough road ahead of ya

[AR3151]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You do realize we are talking about enchanters right?

Enchanters get hit constantly by mobs. But we roll with it!
Hitpoints and armor class are by far our most important stats, followed by charisma (which can easily be maxed with gear).

if i rolled an ENC i would drump most into CHA. yes i do know we are talking about ENC, but Thac0 said all casters [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] just commenting.

i seriously doubt i will be attending raids, thus why im speaking about MY perference, ya know.

KM2783 is my RL friend he is an ENC, and yes they get pummeled constantly lol.