Spells: Talisman of Shadoo and Resist poison should not stack. The Classic Trakanon and you.

[Nirgon]

I think I'm not worried about you guys being able to kill Trakanon either.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Second of all Trakanon's breath appears to be resistable at like 120 poison here. This spell should be on a -150 resist check and resisting it as a lvl 55 or lower char without 300 resist is very wrong to the point of making this encounter very trivial imo.


Applies obviously to both red and blue servers. This mob is the big undead boss / scourge of Cabilis and right now his breaths are too commonly resisted making him quite a push over compared to his original self.

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no room for discussion sir, there is hard data and evidence.

I've presented hard data.

you're the one fluffing up your on thread.

[Treats]

There could be another issue here with a hard coded check on the Resist system.

Some said that on live the maximum cap on resists was 255 (hardcoded server side) even though the client would go above this.

If you look at all of the skills (nothing over 252) it would kind of make sense. It was not overhauled to go higher until Planes of Power when the level cap was changed to 65 and skill levels were increased.

Here is the data on Lure of Ice from the Velious spdat (Notice the Very Hard to Resist):

Lure of Ice
Very Hard to Resist
Decrease Hit Points (HP) by 825 (L60)


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Classes: Wiz (L60)

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Range to Target: 200 feet

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Skill: Evocation
Allowable Targets: All

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Resistance Check: Cold

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Mana Required: 320
Spell Duration: Instant
Casting Time: 4.50 seconds
Spell Recovery: 2.50 seconds

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Spell cast on you: You succumb to the lure of ice.
Spell cast on someone: Soandso succumbs to the lure of ice.

Looking at Lucy in the resist adjust it shows -300:

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellraw....69&source=Live

It shows it was changed on this date from 0 to -300.

This was when the new spell system was put into place before Planes of Power.

2002-09-04 11:33	Changed Resistadj from 0 to -300

(It very well could have only been shown server side before this though as the Sony database in Nirgon's earlier post from 5-1-2001 shows Poison Breath with a resist adjust of -150)

The patch notes from the spell system change:

Resistance Changes:

We've made some fairly drastic changes to the way the spell resistance system works. Previously, there was only the smallest benefit to having resists over a certain value. We've reworked resistance in its entirety, completely replacing the old system with one that is more logical.

The idea behind the changes is pretty simple: Resists should matter in a way that makes sense.

Important things to note about the new resistance system:
Resists matter more for PCs. There are now tangible differences between having 50, 150, and 250 in a given resistance, for example. Resistance buffs, bard songs, and resist gear have actual value, all the way up the line.

Could this have been in regard to the value of 255 for Spell Resists? Kinda sounds like it.

[jpeute]

i just resisted trakanon AE poison with 110 resist poison on my shaman :/ sad face

[uygi]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trakanon's breath appears to be resistable at like 120 poison here.

You may have some understanding of game mechanics. MAY. You MIGHT even remember a little bit from live. But you have almost zero idea how P99 currently functions; you certainly do not have firsthand high end raiding experience on P99 (or if you do, you're in the running for dumbest forum troll ever). And your self-righteous demands based mostly on personal opinion are ridiculous.

Kudos to you for digging up what would appear to be some serious evidence though. If that database access is real and era-appropriate that's pretty badass.

[kanras]

Fixed, pending update.

[kanras]

Also, you didn't need to flex with the DB access and all of that. EQCaster + kunark spdat + velious spdat would have proved the same thing.

[Nirgon]

I shall not flex again

[Nirgon]

Might I add in addition to the likeliness that this needed a resist rate bump (in line with other dragon breaths BUT it is an all or nothing type check like EB), it should also interrupt spell casting in many cases because of the spell push on the type of poison line this is on.

[Nirgon]

Word on the street Shadoo and resist poison still stacking