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[Fael]

In the past, any accounts involved in illegal activity got banned. This is the first time they have ever taken such measures as to ban every account that IP was ever connected to.

This is ex post facto decision making that, thankfully, we have the due process clause to protect us from in real life. This is their server. They can do what they want. I get that. Doesn't make it right.

To use the car analogy. This is equivalent to your friend selling meth, then driving your car without meth, then being caught with having sold meth the year before, and the police find out he drove your car a few times and they impound it.

A lot of people on here love what happened because they believe it benefits them. They ignore that Rogean basically already stated it was only 2 people. And the offense never occurred on these 86 accounts (which belong to probably 5-10 people).

You sheeple can believe what you want to believe about who knew what etc. Or that Rogean wouldn't take such sweeping action unless he had good cause. But the reality is they haven't provided any information on what was duped, how much, where it went etc. Froovy who acknowledges he'll never get his accounts back claims it was "less than he'd make in a night in howling stones."

Never mind all that. Praise and trust Rogean because he has taken unprecedented action to screw innocent people that you happen to dislike; because he had a random epiphany of this server being less competitive, where everyone can be spread Christmas cheer and good tidings to all--24/7. Oh and if we don't all just get along and love each other and share and live up to this nebulous new code of ethics, then we won't see velious. You can't make this stuff up.

Merry Christmas and see you in two weeks,

Dolic

[heazels]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In the past, any accounts involved in illegal activity got banned. This is the first time they have ever taken such measures as to ban every account that IP was ever connected to.

This is ex post facto decision making that, thankfully, we have the due process clause to protect us from in real life. This is their server. They can do what they want. I get that. Doesn't make it right.

To use the car analogy. This is equivalent to your friend selling meth, then driving your car without meth, then being caught with having sold meth the year before, and the police find out he drove your car a few times and they impound it.

A lot of people on here love what happened because they believe it benefits them. They ignore that Rogean basically already stated it was only 2 people. And the offense never occurred on these 86 accounts (which belong to probably 5-10 people).

You sheeple can believe what you want to believe about who knew what etc. Or that Rogean wouldn't take such sweeping action unless he had good cause. But the reality is they haven't provided any information on what was duped, how much, where it went etc. Froovy who acknowledges he'll never get his accounts back claims it was "less than he'd make in a night in howling stones."

Never mind all that. Praise and trust Rogean because he has taken unprecedented action to screw innocent people that you happen to dislike; because he had a random epiphany of this server being less competitive, where everyone can be spread Christmas cheer and good tidings to all--24/7. Oh and if we don't all just get along and love each other and share and live up to this nebulous new code of ethics, then we won't see velious. You can't make this stuff up.

Merry Christmas and see you in two weeks,

Dolic

why do you guys keep trying to to say this happened a year ago? the gm's post makes it sound like it was yesterday. I guess your believing the dupers over what the gm's wrote ont he front page... I'd trust log files over the dupers.

[Tasslehofp99]

What about all the other past incidents in which rules were broken through exploiting, training, KS'ing, kiting raid mobs, etc? Do we just forget about those and act like this is the first time TMO has ever done something shady?


Give me a break guys, seriously.

[heazels]

platlord.com is empty because the duping just ended yesterday, not last year.

[Fountree]

Originally Posted by Nlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The sheer level of entitlement displayed in Z's post and this post is astonishing. This is not your server. Your guild is not P99. People are here for classic experience, not to have their guild's websites hacked and RL photos to taken to public forums or to be trolled in game (and in their real lives). Unreal.

How is that entitled? There are rules for how things operate generally that's how the p99 community has historically worked. You just want TMO disbanded on this server, which is all fine and dandy I'm just curious how deep this went and the details on who was actually breaking the rules. And such a thing may or may not happen given the extent of what transpired.

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To use the car analogy. This is equivalent to your friend selling meth, then driving your car without meth, then being caught with having sold meth the year before, and the police find out he drove your car a few times and they impound it.

When they catch him, he has copies of your keys. He has a duplicate title. How do we discern whose car it truly is? How do we prove it?

This is the risk inherent in sharing accounts.

[skipdog]

I know many on this server have had years of seething hatred for TMO and this was an early Christmas present for them. But personally I think if this happened to any other guild where accounts are commonly shared, people would be on their side.... and it could happen to any guild that shares accounts. There's not much you can do to prevent this kind of things except not sharing accounts at all. There is only so much trust you can build with other people in your MMO guild... there really isn't a way to tell if someone is doing something like this.

[Erati]

boooo hoooo but they only duped 10K ish!

thats barely duping guyz! how can u punish that


lol

[kbnexus]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When they catch him, he has copies of your keys. He has a duplicate title. How do we discern whose car it truly is? How do we prove it?

This is the risk inherent in sharing accounts.

Does he also have a ray gun?

Also, title issue dates are maintained in DMV records [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Are you also going to say they he hacked the DMV databases too?

[Trax]

Z, I think it's time.

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