The Server Wide Suspension will end Monday at 6pm EST

[Kristian]

Originally Posted by chickmagnet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

first off, if your playing for 6 hours a month, who cares if you get an epic or a top tier mob, your spending more time whining about it on forumquest than actually playing the game....there are some people who actually track for 40+ odd hours a week because they enjoy the competition, and the drive to get something more than the guys who play 6 hours a month. There is nothing stopping these casual guilds, most of them have batphones and 50+ members when raiding, but the very idea of 1 of them to track a couple hours a week is a ridiculous concept to them and think they should get a piece of the hardcore gamers pie, before you whine on here about game content and what your guild is not getting, ask yourself this question, how many hours have you tracked for the boss for your epic? or what have you contributed? did you wake up for that 2am batphone? and by respawning more mobs and taking tier 1 guilds out of the equation, do you think that will make it any easier? whats stopping Taken, BDA, and Divinity from stepping up to being the next guild to stop you from getting epics, how many Taken members needed Ragefire, for a few months straight, the only way a cleric could get epic was either joining them or buying a mq from them....keep that in mind, its not the guild that controls mobs, its the guildies themselves and their drive to pursue them

You DO realize that it's impossible for mentally healthy people leading balanced lives to sink 40 hours a week into this, right? The average hobbyist gamer gets 13 hours a week, at 40 a week you're well into compulsive behavior that warrants professional help.

[Mirana]

Originally Posted by chickmagnet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there are some people who actually track for 40+ odd hours a week because they enjoy the competition, and the drive to get something more than the guys who play 6 hours a month.

Seeing the word "drive" after "tracking for 40+ hours a week" made me laugh. As if spamming track is some mental feat similar to losing 50 pounds or starting a business.

The hardcores seem to think that casuals don't want to work for their items. That is, generally speaking, not the case. The casuals really DO want to work for their items, just not at the expense of their personal lives, which is what they would have to do with the server in its current state.

Also, all of you people talking about how repops will hurt the economy... You are like a morbidly obese fast food addict arguing against the local McDonald's shutting down because people will lose jobs. Just stop.

[Uteunayr]

Originally Posted by Mirana [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The hardcores seem to think that casuals don't want to work for their items. That is, generally speaking, not the case. The casuals really DO want to work for their items, just not at the expense of their personal lives, which is what they would have to do with the server in its current state.

Also, I'd add that maintaining rotations, and friendly relations among guilds who each want a share of the pie... That's a lot of work. It's just a different type of work.

[Spitty]

Originally Posted by Mirana [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The hardcores seem to think that casuals don't want to work for their items. That is, generally speaking, not the case. The casuals really DO want to work for their items, just not at the expense of their personal lives, which is what they would have to do with the server in its current state.

For a lot of people, this was never about sacrificing personal time to compete on the raid circuit here.

I, and quite a few people in my guild, have plenty of time to raid. We just absolutely refuse to abandon our integrity as decent people just so some of the shittiest humans I've ever encountered would consider us "raiders" or "competitive".

This rule-set makes it so I don't have to train/exploit/stall/alt-army/etc in order to race for targets. I appreciate that.

[Derubael]

@nilbog
Looks pretty euro friendly to me [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

@nilbog
Looks pretty euro friendly to me [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AS euro raider yes , repops where kinda veryyyyyyy nice for us . i lost the amount of usa based tim guilds we `pissed off back in the day [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[radditsu]

That's when the patches STARTED right?

They would take hours to get the servers back up. They shoved em back to the wee morn because of this.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's when the patches STARTED right?

They would take hours to get the servers back up. They shoved em back to the wee morn because of this.

believe so.

I played a euro guild on live and remember servers normally coming down at 7-8a and back up around 2p.

It sucked working overnights coming home to play some eq and the first thing you see when you log in is, Servers coming down for maintenance in 10:00 please find a safe place to log out

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's when the patches STARTED right?

They would take hours to get the servers back up. They shoved em back to the wee morn because of this.

This is to show the various hours which they would begin or end, discounting the emergency server shutdowns which happened frequently for years and didn't include notes.

[Spitty]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is to show the various hours which they would begin or end, discounting the emergency server shutdowns which happened frequently for years and didn't include notes.

This.

Patch start/end times and durations were all over the board. There were 12 hour patches that started at 3AM PST and were supposed to end by 8AM, and then there were 15-minute quick fixes where everyone logged to the EQ chat and sat in custom chat rooms waiting for patch notes.

This whole fucking thread is filled with non-raiders pissed off about raid topics, and non-classic players trying to convince people of how classic events took place. It's unbelievable.