Class R

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eh? We killed him with like 25 in early AM last week and it was a breeze, and that was with some non-essential classes like necros and paladins.

We could easily kill Trak with 18 of the correct classes if we had no pressure and could clear all the juggs - do you think being in Class C somehow makes you a better player? Having some Crown of Riles doesn't change much from what we have available.

I meant with the juggs of course. Because a competitive guild there wouldn't give you time to clear them. No I know I'm a better player if I was naked without gear than most.

[Man0warr]

Even with Juggs up we'd be fine - as long as you are all 60 and hug the wall with Lev you can bypass them all except maybe 1, then you just have an enchanter Dictate.

We weren't talking about competing with TMO/IB in this scenario though, as we were discussing FFA Trak during a Sim repop when you guys would be in VP.

If it wasn't a sim repop, and it was just a plain old FFA Trak, TMO/IB would win 95% of the time just from your multitude of mages.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even with Juggs up we'd be fine - as long as you are all 60 and hug the wall with Lev you can bypass them all except maybe 1, then you just have an enchanter Dictate.

We weren't talking about competing with TMO/IB in this scenario though, as we were discussing FFA Trak during a Sim repop when you guys would be in VP.

If it wasn't a sim repop, and it was just a plain old FFA Trak, TMO/IB would win 95% of the time just from your multitude of mages.

False. You would have Protector and 2 juggs with that method.

[Lazie]

And there is a better use for that chanter than having it just dictate one mob.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even with Juggs up we'd be fine - as long as you are all 60 and hug the wall with Lev you can bypass them all except maybe 1, then you just have an enchanter Dictate.

We weren't talking about competing with TMO/IB in this scenario though, as we were discussing FFA Trak during a Sim repop when you guys would be in VP.

If it wasn't a sim repop, and it was just a plain old FFA Trak, TMO/IB would win 95% of the time just from your multitude of mages.

Hate to break it to you, but there is no way any class R guild would be able to beat TMO/IB on a competitive trak engage. At least for a while. Weve engaged and killed trak with 9 people while cothing down the rest and training away the juggs.

This is much different that calmly pulling out your juggs one at a time, no pressure, no risk. Just take your time and kill the 2 juggs and protector. This isnt meant to be a slight or knock, its just reality.

[nicemace]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hate to break it to you, but there is no way any class R guild would be able to beat TMO/IB on a competitive trak engage. At least for a while. Weve engaged and killed trak with 9 people while cothing down the rest and training away the juggs.

This is much different that calmly pulling out your juggs one at a time, no pressure, no risk. Just take your time and kill the 2 juggs and protector. This isnt meant to be a slight or knock, its just reality.

you say that like you think it requires some kind of skill or that its hard to do.

the reality is that your 'skill' is in your ability to recruit people so you have an available force "immediately" on pop or whatever and that majority of your guild is well geared through the benefit of you guys having a nice lead so doing stuff like this is trivial.

dont delude yourself into thinking youre executing some kind of crazy unheard of strats that no one else is doing.


im not ragging on what ya do though dude, you guys see success and thats all the matters.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by nicemace [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you say that like you think it requires some kind of skill or that its hard to do.

the reality is that your 'skill' is in your ability to recruit people so you have an available force "immediately" on pop or whatever and that majority of your guild is well geared through the benefit of you guys having a nice lead so doing stuff like this is trivial.

dont delude yourself into thinking youre executing some kind of crazy unheard of strats that no one else is doing.


im not ragging on what ya do though dude, you guys see success and thats all the matters.

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Yeah try it with just green people you recruit to bolster numbers. See how that works.

[skipdog]

Originally Posted by nicemace [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you say that like you think it requires some kind of skill or that its hard to do.

the reality is that your 'skill' is in your ability to recruit people so you have an available force "immediately" on pop or whatever and that majority of your guild is well geared through the benefit of you guys having a nice lead so doing stuff like this is trivial.

dont delude yourself into thinking youre executing some kind of crazy unheard of strats that no one else is doing.


im not ragging on what ya do though dude, you guys see success and thats all the matters.

I'm sorry but the idea that none of the class R guilds can mobilize a force with a batphone is just ridiculous.

The idea that TMO/IB dominate because of numbers is seriously laughable. Do you guys not see how many class R guilds have huge amounts of people during earthquakes even at odd hours? Almost all of the class R guilds have batphones and huge rosters too.

He's right though. No class R guilds right now could beat TMO/IB in an actual race to Trak and it has nothing to do with numbers - it is because they are very practiced and can execute very fast and clean. If you don't see that, you are being delusional and should probably stop believing everything your leadership tells you.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Gaffin 7.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

blue is so shit looool people are brainwashed into misery of lvling on this clusterfuck just to be a warm body for 3 years to get 1 trak bp

I leveled one character from 0 to 60 and had a Robe of the Azure sky, Cloak of Peity, Dragon Hero Bracer, Staff of Null, Bo Staff of Trorsmang, Shield of Rainbow Hues, Skullcrusher of Kragg, and various other sky loots in under a year of raiding. Your idea of what a person can earn in a raiding guild is flawed. I mean if you put in the time you get rewarded.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I leveled one character from 0 to 60 and had a Robe of the Azure sky, Cloak of Peity, Dragon Hero Bracer, Staff of Null, Bo Staff of Trorsmang, Shield of Rainbow Hues, Skullcrusher of Kragg, and various other sky loots in under a year of raiding. Your idea of what a person can earn in a raiding guild is flawed. I mean if you put in the time you get rewarded.

I also forgot to mention the various spells and things my alt got. I mean...honestly. Only item I really had to buy for my character was a Fungi. The rest of it I got raiding/camping and he pretty much has all he needs for the start of Velious. A few more items wouldn't hurt but aren't needed.