We Are Supposed to Eat Animals !

[Lune]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

really really stupid

[GradnerLives]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

really really stupid

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Saludeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If consciousness is an emergent property of mindless mechanics then everyone would have the same exact response to stimuli like programs / robots do, but we don't. Our consciousness is a significant threshold above what we can do with AI, not just a gradient. Meaning, robots are limited to "if > then". But we're a level above that. And to assume that you know the type of consciousness plants have is conjecture and means you have no base to be arrogant towards people who think they might be aware of more than we think. We also don't know the boundaries of consciousness so it could pervade all matter despite you an I having a barrier between our minds.

Explain Alzheimer's in your own words

I'd love to hear what you think causes the changes in personality, memory, and cognition as a result of that disease

[Ahldagor]

The technology will get cheaper and then attempt to expand the market. Advertising the product effectively will take some investments.

[Saludeen]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

really really stupid

Yeah, you'd have to be pretty stupid to not understand the basic concept of if / then.

[Trungep99]

I'm not a vegan or vegetarian but there are safe ways to raise children with such diets. There are entire Indian cultures that raise their neighborhoods being vegan

[R Flair]

Bet their men are 20% weaker than my mother.

[entruil]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

quoted the part i read up 2

you're right trees are not deliberately over-engineered because they're not deliberately engineered at all. butt single cells, and even most multicellular organisms, are nothing more than extremely complex chemical clockworks. Consciousness and the capacity for a subjective experience are emergent properties of a central nervous system; if you are claiming trees or plants whose response to stimuli are all mediated by clockwork chemical mechanisms incidentally evolved the ability to experience reality subjectively on some level beyond human understanding you are a stupid as shit hippie, meat eating contrarian, or other anti intellectual piece of trash.

Before the CNS, there were self-replicating little bundles of chemical. a (intelligent) Dahmer type could light 6 billion of those on fire in a void and not get a lick of pleasure from the suffering generated because there is none. Do these retards sometimes get worried that their computer or car have secret interior monologues and feelings they don't know about?

The injun "everything has a spirit" thing is great and all cuz we should respect the earth, but i dont think they were literally saying that while making arrowheads from a stone that they were chipping brutally away at a conscious entity's body.

^not sure why i wrote all that, pretty sure nobody here actually believes this shit

cool ... don't know how to respond yet but still typing this... bleh.

will add native american spiritual sensitivity is a nice wormhole to recognize breathe.

prefer word other than magic but ble gh

 

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[Trungep99]

For the record. I was referring to certain cultures and religions from india, not native Americans

[maskedmelon]

The injun thing is actually an interesting point, because whether they believed the rock was alive or not, they'd still do it. They would just be thankful for its sacrifice, just as they were for that of the prey they hunted, very similar to Japanese in that regard, but no surprise really given that Shintoism holds similar beliefs that God is everywhere in everything.

I am kind of surprised though that consensus (lack of opposition suggesting there is none, or everyone has tired of the conversation ^^) appears to be that it would be perfectly acceptable to eat animals (even alive) if they didn't experience pain. It follows the vegan argument, it just surprises me that people would think its ok. Seems arbitrary. Gonna have to think on this more.