<ST> cucking out of Green99 due to Kingdom taking their merbz

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think his argument is that the player choice is simply playing on the server. Nothing that players do on the server matters because they chose to play on the server and can choose to not play if they don't like it.

It's a flawed argument because it's ignoring the intent behind player actions.

So how does he consider good intentions? Someone gifted me a set of banded and someone else a decent weapon for cheap to get me started on Green. Intentions don't matter in that case because we three chose to play on the server? Lol no, obviously not. Those are purely good, friendly intentions from players that aren't dicks. Intentions matter even after you choose to play on the server with it's rules.

Player reputation is earned through interaction with other players

Not gameplay mechanics

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think his argument is that the player choice is simply playing on the server. Nothing that players do on the server matters because they chose to play on the server and can choose to not play if they don't like it.

It's a flawed argument because it's ignoring the intent behind player actions.

So how does he consider good intentions? Someone gifted me a set of banded and someone else a decent weapon for cheap to get me started on Green. Intentions don't matter in that case because we three chose to play on the server? Lol no, obviously not. Those are purely good, friendly intentions from players that aren't dicks. Intentions matter even after you choose to play on the server with it's rules.

That is not my argument. What I am saying is it is your choice to play P99. This means that you have agreed to play a game that has limited loot as a mechanic. You can't get mad about that specific game mechanic, because you have agreed to play with it. If you don't like that mechanic, you are free to play another game.

Intent doesn't matter if players are playing by the rules. Everybody has agreed to these rules. Intent only matters if players do not play by the rules, such as hacking, breaking the PnP, etc.

If you are talking about developing relationships with players, that is NOT a requirement of P99. You cannot force players to build a relationship with you, regardless of whether or not you think they are a dick. Just because they do not want to play the game the same way you do, that doesn't make them a dick.

Finally, some people do get pissed off if you try to give them free gear. They think you are looking down on them. Even if intent is good, that doesn't always mean the result is good. It's the same thing with evil intent. Even if the intent is evil, that doesn't mean the result is evil. You are falsely assuming waking the Sleeper is evil, which is why you are trying to glean intent. It is not evil, you have agreed to it by playing the game.

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is not my argument. What I am saying is it is your choice to play P99. This means that you have agreed to play a game that has limited loot as a mechanic. You can't get mad about that specific game mechanic, because you have agreed to play with it. If you don't like that mechanic, you are free to play another game.

Players can "agree to play" and still be mad about something that is allowed within the rules. Players can click "I agree to the rules" (regardless of what they say), knowingly, and still be mad about that thing that they are mad about. You are not able to control whether another person/player gets mad or not. If you don't like that, you are free to cope/seethe/mald or continue replying at your leisure.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Intent doesn't matter if players are playing by the rules. Everybody has agreed to these rules. Intent only matters if players do not play by the rules, such as hacking, breaking the PnP, etc.

You are assuming that by "agreeing to the rules" (whether by clicking on some actual "I agree" button or by actively playing) a player necessarily believes all those rules are fair & just, and that clicking/playing removes their ability to form an opinion on whether an action that is fully allowed within the guidelines of said rules/agreement, is a dick move or not. They are still able to think something is a dick move. You are not able to control whether another person/player thinks something is a dick move or not. If you don't like that, you are free to cope/seethe/mald or continue replying at your leisure.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are talking about developing relationships with players, that is NOT a requirement of P99. You cannot force players to build a relationship with you, regardless of whether or not you think they are a dick. Just because they do not want to play the game the same way you do, that doesn't make them a dick.

You cannot force people not to think someone is a dick or that a given action is "dickish"/"a dick move". Just because you want to do and post a lot doesn't mean you can/will. Sorry! You are, however, free to continue to cope/seethe/mald or continue replying at your leisure.

[Ripqozko]

DSM is basically Vanquish in a nutshell, enjoy apping and hearing him/deso all day. Hope that helps.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DSM is basically Vanquish in a nutshell, enjoy apping and hearing him/deso all day. Hope that helps.

Imagine hating a guild of players on a game nobody is forcing you to play lol. Hope this helps.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine hating a guild of players on a game nobody is forcing you to play lol. Hope this helps.

Imagine being that autistic to reply for 30 pages over and over again.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine being that autistic to reply for 30 pages over and over again.

Says the guy replying[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Says the guy replying[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

for 30 pages? nah brah, hope that helps. keep going tho you surely will win this.

[Reiwa]

If you go see a movie and the movie is bad, you have no right to complain that it's bad because you went there voluntarily.

I am very intelligent.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you go see a movie and the movie is bad, you have no right to complain that it's bad because you went there voluntarily.

I am very intelligent.

This is a bad analogy. A better analogy is people going to a movie and complaining the movie has sound. In their opinion, the movie shouldn't have sound, and everybody should be forced to watch silent movies.