Boxing - Page 20

Arclanz · #**191** 08-31-2010, 01:52 PM

If you are going to leave in powerleveling and twinking, why rule out boxing? All three are cheating and all three are counterproductive to grouping. If grouping is the big goal then powerleveling especially should be illegal; and this server has a shitload of it going on.

I played regularly from 1999 til LDON. Around LDON I wanted my paladin main to catch up to my cleric. After that I boxed a while and in fact invited a lot of players to join me. Boxing enabled me to form groups that would not have otherwise formed. And if a cleric did join the group then I'd always log my cleric off.

Harrison · #**192** 08-31-2010, 01:55 PM

Twinking is cheating....lol

hueylewis187 · #**193** 08-31-2010, 01:57 PM

Because powerleveling and twinking are not cheating. You still had to earn plat to twink your character. You still had to get to 50 to plvl someone.

Boxing will kill the server. Twinking and plvling will not. Get your ass to the camp first , if you think the plvlers are taking all the best spots. When I plvl I give up the camp all the time to people that are in a normal group. Not every time , but a lot of the time I do.

Arclanz · #**194** 08-31-2010, 01:58 PM

by that logic then as long as I earn plat and level a character to 50; I can do all the boxing I want afterwards?

Harrison · #**195** 08-31-2010, 02:04 PM

That makes no sense. None.

Just give it up. No one is going to change it. Boxing is the primary reason (lack thereof) this server is so successful.

Teeny · #**196** 08-31-2010, 02:04 PM

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If boxing is allowed even 2.

The server is done. Why would they do this?

I personally can understand why people don't want boxing, grouping is a PITA, thats fine. Boxing doesn't discourage grouping, boxing makes groups easier to form imo. I do however think this won't be positive until the release of kunark when the world becomes much much bigger so people will be spread out more. With the smaller amount of people the harder it will be overall to get groups. If i was boxing a tank and or a healer, and a dps was LFG near me, I'd snatch them up in a sec because killing faster would = more xp for me.

Efficiency is ALL that matters when leveling. The only real people it would affect negatively IMO is solo'ers. I've grouped up a few times with other necros, druids etc etc so we could kill more efficiently, but with the ability to two box, that would probably never happen, but hey, I can solo for better xp than 90 % of the people that play so who cares?

People are against boxing mostly because they themselves can't do it. Saying that boxing is anti-classic is an outright lie, everyone boxed back then, I played my friends toon while he was at school along side mine while leveling in live, both in and out of groups. What boxing will do, effectively double the population *albeit not truely doubling it* it will also attract alot of the people who didn't come to play here who play weird hours. I usually play in the middle of the night, so I couldn't pick a group class, I was stuck picking a necro, because I needed the ability to solo because no one groups ta that hour of night and if they did they were not my level. Now that I'm 50 and I've started raiding I've noticed that alot of the solo classes are more flakey than any of the other classes simply put because alot of them got honed into their classes because of the time they play and they just didn't enjoy game play.

I disagree with the masses on this one, I do think boxing *2 toons* should be enabled for kunark, the world will become so much bigger that in order to keep enough people to make groups it will almost need to happen. I've had alot of friends who refused to come to this server simply put because they couldn't box, and they didn't want to sit LFG all the time because like one of the above posters said, they only had 30 minutes, and they didn't want to play a solo class.

Classic didn't restrict this, so I will take the stance of a lot of the other whiners on this server, ZOMG YOU COULD BOX IN CLASSIC THIS ISNT CLASSIC ENUF.

Just my 2cp,
Pedro

Harrison · #**197** 08-31-2010, 02:08 PM

Boxing would just make everything camped, harder.

Mage can't solo this camp? 2box it. (when another person would come and group it, solo it, whatever)

It would effectively just make everything a solo camp. It's a ridiculously terrible move and will destroy the server.

PEQ sucks fat dick. You know why? Boxing entire groups.

nalkin · #**198** 08-31-2010, 02:15 PM

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If i was boxing a tank and or a healer, and a dps was LFG near me, I'd snatch them up in a sec because killing faster would = more xp for me.

The thing is you wouldn't be in that situation because youd also be boxing a dps class. The server would come to the point where if you wanted to do anything in this game you would HAVE to box, because everyone else was doing it.

Its a free subscription here, so there is nothing to stop someone from boxing 6 chars. Whereas back in live you had to think... is it worth 60 bucks a month to box vs 10 bucks.

It would, without a doubt, ruin this server.

Arclanz · #**199** 08-31-2010, 02:15 PM

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...I disagree with the [vocal minority] on this one...

fixed for ya Teeny

/agree Teeny.

Two boxing requires skill and actually playing character(s); powerleveling does not. Two-boxers have formed a lot of groups over the years; powerleveling has never formed a single group.

Hipocracy at its worst.

Do I give a shit if boxing is implemented? No. Do I abhor hipocracy, double-standards, etc.? Yes.

Teeny · #**200** 08-31-2010, 02:19 PM

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The thing is you wouldn't be in that situation because youd also be boxing a dps class. The server would come to the point where if you wanted to do anything in this game you would HAVE to box, because everyone else was doing it.

Its a free subscription here, so there is nothing to stop someone from boxing 6 chars. Whereas back in live you had to think... is it worth 60 bucks a month to box vs 10 bucks.

It would, without a doubt, ruin this server.

Ok well why not come inbetween, limit the amount of boxes to two, so that it at least allows people who play at non-peak hours a chance to play some of these group based classes so that the pop on the server isnt like 40% Necros/Mages.

When I say allow boxing, I don't want people to be able to box 6, id rather there be at least a limit on it, because yah boxing 6 would be dumb, boxing two on the other hand wouldn't discourage grouping at all imo.