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Old 09-07-2011, 11:30 PM
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Saying you don't like something once in a polite way is just fine.

Lobbying for it seems a bit questionable.

Claiming that the server is a flaming wreck because you don't like something is taking a big step over the line. At this point, you'd serve your cause better by opening your own server.
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Old 09-07-2011, 11:40 PM
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Perhaps instead of pushing you personal opinion on the people who built, run, and maintain the server, your response should be "Well, I dont like this, im going to leave."
Go read the book Exit, Voice, and Loyalty by Albert Hirschman. It's short but it'll give you some perspective as to why anyone whose touched the raid scene outside of TR is so hell bent on blowing shit up. You've just touched on the "Exit" portion of it.

Also I would tell you to just wikipedia it, except the article's analysis sucks balls. Just go read it, it's only 100 pages.
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Old 09-08-2011, 12:26 AM
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Perhaps instead of pushing you personal opinion on the people who built, run, and maintain the server, your response should be "Well, I dont like this, im going to leave."
Thank you for your opinion

I respectfully disagree
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Old 09-08-2011, 12:46 AM
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Old 09-08-2011, 01:05 AM
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Everyone feels that just because you created a character here and spent hours sitting here leveling that you're entitled to have a say in what goes on?
You're forgetting half of the equation that, ironically, has become pretty apparent in the last few years to the rest of the business world. Do you use Yelp? Same shit. Consumers effectively culling out inferior products through the power of their patronage. The result is better restaurants succeeding. In OUR case, however, there are no alternatives; I can't just go eat somewhere else.

A service is a service is a service regardless of whether you pay for it or not. Right now the p99 is being viewed as inferior to other acceptable gaming experiences provided in a million different places around the net. If people don't like what you're doing, they're going to opt for something else and without those players on your box, there is no P99. However, since there's no alternative, we get threads like this from people who want to stay and no opinion from people who have left that aren't Azeth... or me...

So, Hasbinbad arguing that some or all of these dissension posts are intentionally trying to undermine p99 just doesn't fly with me when the option to just leave is open and might I say popular. Fix the big issues and the symptoms that present themselves (this thread, truthing, hasbinbad qq's, torches and pitchforks, the Brawny approach) will go away and the blissful peace of Tralina boob pic threads will once again return unto dewy meadows of the RnF forum.

The consequence of doing nothing to remedy the perception that this server is corrupt and thus inferior, not that it's pertinent: P99 will dry up and blow away the second an alternative comes along as a result of the input of players into the system being less than those leaving. I'll repeat what I said earlier, the novelty of "The Classic EQ Experience" is part of what has allowed the server to continue existing despite turnover. I evidence this with the fact that we are not alone in our pursuit of Classic EQ and there exists a mostly separate community, EQC.
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Old 09-08-2011, 01:10 AM
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Old 09-08-2011, 01:12 AM
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Old 09-08-2011, 01:16 AM
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Once players understand this world has a creator that made it and rules it, they stop whining or quit.

Open your eyes, this ain't a democracy and I see no reason why it should be a democracy, unless its creator decides so.

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Old 09-08-2011, 01:46 AM
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Wouldnt it have been a lot easier just to ban everyone that cheated because its in the rules and force anyone that wants to play from here on out to have the .dll file?

I understand you think you'll lose some of the population if you did that but really what message are you sending the community? Besides these addicts cant quit cold turkey.
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Old 09-08-2011, 06:43 AM
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The cheaters who will be joining us again soon won't be cheating anymore. They'll be caught and permanently removed if they do it again, since we know the staff can detect it.
Actually, MQ developers are without a doubt working on something undetectable by Rogean's code. Fewer will cheat knowing the risk but this is not the end of cheating.
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