Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"What you don't understand is once you are in a group setting, there are too many variables out of your control that can skew the data"

"On P99 if I do 1350 damage solo, I will also do 1350 damage in a group against the same mob."

And now we're shifting to "If your group is playing correctly" the DPS will be the same...so now you've created a vague standard to ensure your argument works. Got it.

I refuse to believe anyone can be this stupid to not see why DPS in a group would be different.

I think we can summarise what's happened here:

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[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, you have yet to explain why the DPS would be different if the group is playing correctly.

Variables outside of each player / any individual player's control still exist even if each player is "playing correctly". We are discussing reality, not a simulation that does not exist or bot programs playing Project 1999 characters, which would be against the rules.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I can do 1350 damage solo, what changes when I deal 1350 damage in a group?

As has been pointed out to you plenty of times, variables. One such variable might be that you need to do an action/activity that is not a DPS action/activity, such as healing a groupmate or Maloing/slowing a mob (or multiple mobs). Doing such a (non-DPS) activity will obviously irrefutably affect your DPS (or "skew the data" in your words). Another variable might be that the mob dies before you are able to inflict 1350 damage, in which case, the amount of damage you do inflict before the mob dies will vary, which means that your DPS on that/those particular mobs will vary. This really isn't hard hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want to say the mob is dying so quickly I can't cast 2 Ice Strikes, for example, then the Mage's DPS will be effected too, because they would not be able to cast 2 Shock of Steel.

You have provided zero evidence that the variables (such as time it takes for mob[s] to die) will affect the Mage's DPS to the same degree that it will affect the Shaman's (DoT based, inferior) DPS hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] This really isn't hard.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If your Enchanters keep killing the party, that is NOT an indicator of average class DPS. It does not give you a proper analysis of the Mage's DPS, the Shaman's DPS, or the Enchanter's DPS.

It would be an indicator of the actual amount of DPS that was performed/attained during testing/recording/parsing, which is the Mage's DPS, the Shaman's DPS and the Enchanter's relevant DPS numbers hehe. This really isn't hard. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I refuse to believe anyone can be this stupid to not see why DPS in a group would be different.

I think we can summarise what's happened here:

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Trolling over and over isn't a valid argument.

You have yet to show why you think the DPS will change, other than claiming everybody who disagrees with you is stupid.

If your group is playing correctly, you will DPS normally. Your pet dying due to another player's mistake is not a valid indicator of DPS, because it is outside of the class itself.

[Troxx]

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[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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It's a never-ending nightmare of illogical behaviour.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a never-ending nightmare of illogical behaviour.

Agreed. Trolling/memeing/insulting people who disagree with you is illogical behavior.

[Ripqozko]

1000 then this gets locked, won't be long

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed. Trolling/memeing/insulting people who disagree with you is illogical behavior.

No, it's pretty logical when the person you speak with possesses neither the intellectual, nor the moral high ground.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, it's pretty logical when the person you speak with possesses neither the intellectual, nor the moral high ground.

You have no proof for any of these things.

The people who don't have the moral high ground for sure are the trolls. Having 800+ posts that are just insults and memes speak volumes about yourself and your fellow posters[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you honestly think I am stupid, just stop posting. You obviously think what I am saying has truth to it, or you wouldn't be so threatened by it you have to drown out my posts in trolling.

[Gloomlord]

Funny...

You actually believe we're all angry because you speak the truth?

No, you're not Jesus, DSM. We're not angry because you speak the truth, but because you are a pathetic human being.