the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Laws don't matter, especially unjust ones

I'm not worried about any of that shit at all because I don't wield power over other people whatsoever. They can vandalize my house if they want, if that means women can control their own bodies seems like an easy trade off

Kind of a weird statement, laws don’t matter especially unjust ones. So not only do unjust laws not matter, but just laws also don’t matter? I guess yea, if we are saying do laws protect us then no, someone could still kidnap, torture and murder a superior court justice’s kid who ventures outside the home and into the arms of an angry mob, and the law itself would not protect that kid. That is correct yes

Also, saying your can terrorize me and it will get me to change my stance is not only a cowardly stance, but also encourages more terrorism, for any reason. That’s why I wouldn’t say that. Despite people preventing my family from safely leaving the home, if I were a judge I would not change my ruling. It wouldn’t reinforce my ruling either. It should have no effect

[Horza]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kind of a weird statement, laws don’t matter especially unjust ones. So not only do unjust laws not matter, but just laws also don’t matter? I guess yea, if we are saying do laws protect us then no, someone could still kidnap, torture and murder a superior court justice’s kid who ventures outside the home and into the arms of an angry mob, and the law itself would not protect that kid. That is correct yes

Also, saying your can terrorize me and it will get me to change my stance is not only a cowardly stance, but also encourages more terrorism, for any reason. That’s why I wouldn’t say that. Despite people preventing my family from safely leaving the home, if I were a judge I would not change my ruling. It wouldn’t reinforce my ruling either. It should have no effect

Trump tried to overthrow the government and have his vice president killed because he was mad about losing an election, with zero consequences.

Laws only really matter for us little people.

[robayon]

Yeah well if that hypothetical judge wasn't using the law to terrorize women the mob wouldn't be there being a mob and doing mob things

I ain't saying a mob is just, it's a mob, but actions have consequences

If a people run out of legal options, they will turn to illegal ones, this has happened countless times in history

Zinn said "The cries of the poor are not always just, but if you don't listen to them, you'll never know what justice is"

In this case, though, I believe intimidating the supreme court for this particular reason is just

I am also opposed to the supreme court in general so pretty much any reason is good enough [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[whataboutism whataboutism whataboutism ]

Laws only matter for us little people.

That’s a decently accurate statement. You’re saying being rich and powerful can make you be above the law. The Supreme Court justices are fairly rich and powerful, and the angry mob isn’t. Therefore, the justices should have extra federal support, while the people have less. And they would, if they were the correct political party, but they’re not

So while I agree on some level, it doesn’t apply to this particular circumstance

[robayon]

If rich people show us over and over that the laws only exist to protect them, and not us, what reason do any of us have to participate in any of this charade?

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah well if that hypothetical judge wasn't using the law to terrorize women the mob wouldn't be there being a mob and doing mob things

I ain't saying a mob is just, it's a mob, but actions have consequences

If a people run out of legal options, they will turn to illegal ones, this has happened countless times in history

Zinn said "The cries of the poor are not always just, but if you don't listen to them, you'll never know what justice is"

In this case, though, I believe intimidating the supreme court for this particular reason is just

I am also opposed to the supreme court in general so pretty much any reason is good enough [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fair enough, but there is not an objective standard of “just” or not, and if there was, our judicial system tends to be the one to determine it

A Republican government can decide something is just to them, and then you’ll regret giving permission to ignore laws based on the subjective idea of justice

[Horza]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fair enough, but there is not an objective standard of “just” or not, and if there was, our judicial system tends to be the one to determine it

A Republican government can decide something is just to them, and then you’ll regret giving permission to ignore laws based on the subjective idea of justice

Republicans already ignore laws based on their subjective idea of justice, they tried to coup Biden before he even took office and there have been no repercussions for them.

[robayon]

That's precisely what's been happening for years, you're warning me about something that's already happened. Americans talk about freedom but then drop bombs on the children of their enemies. Americans talk about justice while they let murderers go free. The democrats aren't your opposition, they are your allies. I support neither party and I support none of this government. I exist within it against my will, and I'm far luckier than a lot of people who get smashed by the capitalist meat grinder we call government.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Republicans already ignore laws based on their subjective idea of justice, they tried to coup Biden before he even took office and there have been no repercussions for them.

That’s weird, I coulda swore some are in solitary confinement forever slowly going insane from lack of stimuli with no due process? Didn’t one of them already kill themselves too due to it?

Or do you mean trump wasn’t prosecuted for saying “be strong”

[Jibartik]

The left: the three branches of goverment doesn't work!

Also the left: are you trying to destroy our democracy??