2020 Post Election MEGAthread

[Gwaihir]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

 

Basically, you got it. Asgard good in some, Asgard bad in some "replicators and machine people, aka angels bad in some". etc Devils are time traveling humans from the future... see ST:.Discovery (Star Trek aka SATAN ST. Children of men.. being demons that can't ascend, ascending us. etc... There's no such thing as hell and angels, just different post singularity civs trying to manipulate the universe into what they consider paradise. Nothing is 'good'. Freedom is costly. Servitude is rewarded by the angels... Most people die in abject ignorance and meaninglessness, you are not reincarnated in heaven, nor on earth by a "God" who lies to you but enjoys voyeristically watching his creation. And draws no distinction from the individual to the civilization or his religion.

I think the only thing stopping us from completely getting bowled over is that there literally is a war in heaven and one side doesn't have the time to expend stamping us out because we are still stuck on this shitty rock yelling at eachother over gay rights and haven't passed a singularity/filter were we become a player.

One side is pushing us there.

It is all madness.

Regardless.

It is good to know what the stars are made of tho. And how to build our own. We could win and start creating creation. Look at our AIs and games.

There's good money to be made if u can buy a slot in netflix telling your version of the time and true old story. Then u die, after hookers, buying your 'friends' boob jobs, and illegal parties during quarentine.

Check out: https://www.amazon.com/Contact-Novel.../dp/1501197983
^^^^^^^^^^^ absolutely a must read
tho. it's uplifting and not as terrifying as the tug of war bullshit the multimedia industry engages in (because it's way less sensational and way more accurate, speculative, science fiction)

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Personally believe the most harm being done to our species and world is by the Pharisees spouting biblical prophecy as some sort of de-facto-truth. They don't speek for god, the aliens, or the angels, they are just ignorant tribal chieftains with lofty ideals and insane demonic totems themselves, and a big fear of the other 'demons' to wield like a cudgel against anyone who threatens their power and security.

Pharisees are those who leverage God's word as a system of legalism and posit themselves as the gatekeeper between us and divine.

Matthew 23 makes this point fairly clearly, specifically verses 13-14, and can very aptly be applied to the catholic church, as well as any brimstone bible thumpers in the protestant/puritan lines. Christ didn't come to condemn us, he came to free us from our own self-selected condemnation, after all.

At its core, the bible describes humanity as CAPABLE of creating reality with their mind, just like God created this material plane with his mind.

Along this line of thought, if we envision ourselves as purely material brings, as described in the nature of deceitful human thinking/rationale detailed in the verses bridging Wisdom chapters 1 & 2, then our mind makes that reality true for the individuals who come to believe in the atheists "truth".

It kind of brings the whole concept of "hell" into question,
namely, is "hell" something we manifest IN THIS LIFE and really just a descriptor of the "total depravity" and "squallor" we can allow to become our reality?

And if so, does it follow us to a place in the afterlife, or does belief in non-existence of the soul become manifest in what would otherwise be the reunion with the godhead after our time on this plane is complete, by instead resulting in pure non-existence after this "life"?

Regardless, if we accept the premise that our minds reify our reality, then the bible and it's Tennant's are more of a guideline on HOW TO reconnect with the source of life and consciousness in this time here on this plane, so that we are able to keep faith and reconnect with God when our time here is over, as opposed to a bevy of charges which are levied over us simply because of our flawed human (ego) nature.

Viewing "salvation" in this light also disarms the atheist/blasphemer's recalcitrant and misplaced ire at God, dispels the psychological projection of externalizing our own self-selected miseries, projecting blame on God, and allows us to see them for the projections they are.

This topic is also touched upon in Wisdom, where Solomon expresses the fact that "Death" did not come from God. It came from our choice to eschew God and Christ, thus cutting ourselves off from the immortality which would otherwise be manifest without sin (and it's reward of death)
Some food for thought.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Gwaihir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pharisees are those who leverage God's word as a system of legalism and posit themselves as the gatekeeper between us and divine.

Matthew 23 makes this point fairly clearly, specifically verses 13-14, and can very aptly be applied to the catholic church, as well as any brimstone bible thumpers in the protestant/puritan lines. Christ didn't come to condemn us, he came to free us from our own self-selected condemnation, after all.

At its core, the bible describes humanity as CAPABLE of creating reality with their mind, just like God created this material plane with his mind.

Along this line of thought, if we envision ourselves as purely material brings, as described in the nature of deceitful human thinking/rationale detailed in the verses bridging Wisdom chapters 1 & 2, then our mind makes that reality true for the individuals who come to believe in the atheists "truth".

It kind of brings the whole concept of "hell" into question,
namely, is "hell" something we manifest IN THIS LIFE and really just a descriptor of the "total depravity" and "squallor" we can allow to become our reality?

And if so, does it follow us to a place in the afterlife, or does belief in non-existence of the soul become manifest in what would otherwise be the reunion with the godhead after our time on this plane is complete, by instead resulting in pure non-existence after this "life"?

Regardless, if we accept the premise that our minds reify our reality, then the bible and it's Tennant's are more of a guideline on HOW TO reconnect with the source of life and consciousness in this time here on this plane, so that we are able to keep faith and reconnect with God when our time here is over, as opposed to a bevy of charges which are levied over us simply because of our flawed human (ego) nature.

Viewing "salvation" in this light also disarms the atheist/blasphemer's recalcitrant and misplaced ire at God, dispels the psychological projection of externalizing our own self-selected miseries, projecting blame on God, and allows us to see them for the projections they are.

This topic is also touched upon in Wisdom, where Solomon expresses the fact that "Death" did not come from God. It came from our choice to eschew God and Christ, thus cutting ourselves off from the immortality which would otherwise be manifest without sin (and it's reward of death)
Some food for thought.

Thanks for this. I read and absorbed. Guess my initial feeling is generally agreeable.

Definitely food for thought.

[Jibartik]

idk how i feel about the wisdom of solomon, if you were to take philosophy peganism and Abrahamic religions you'd have a lot of what it talks about, and paganism is like, the oposite of christ, so what do you say about that Gwaihir? I am curious about your thoughts.

I also am not convinced it was written before the existence of Christ, but am open to the idea. But in my experience, anything that seems prophetic in anyway, always turns out that is not.

[Jibartik]

Also can we get an amen that politics is so wack in 2020 that religion is taking back over? ye haw!

[Gravydoo II]

I know christians are taught that atheists "hate" god or are "mad at" god but in all honesty, most atheists dont even think about god, ever. Its just not in our heads. We dont care. We have no skin in the game. We dont think we were forsaken, left to twist in the wind, blame god for our lives or misdeeds, none of it. We dont consider it, ever. You know why? Cause we dont believe in it.

Why would someone be mad at something they dont believe in...? Its like being mad at santa claus or the easter bunny, when you're 30. You see how silly that sounds? Do you blame santa when you car breaks down or you get a speeding ticket?? No.

So why would we be mad, blame, or hate something we dont even believe exists or ever has existed??

[Gwaihir]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

idk how i feel about the wisdom of solomon, if you were to take philosophy peganism and Abrahamic religions you'd have a lot of what it talks about, and paganism is like, the oposite of christ, so what do you say about that Gwaihir? I am curious about your thoughts.

I also am not convinced it was written before the existence of Christ, but am open to the idea. But in my experience, anything that seems prophetic in anyway, always turns out that is not.

There are two sides to the Tree of Life, (and Death) as denoted by serpent wrapped cross.

If surrendering the ego to the cross and living in obedience with God's Will makes manifest gifts of the Spirit of Wisdom (Sophia, Chokhmah, Holy Spirit, the pneuma of God) as denoted in 1Cor chapter 12, then surrendering the Self to Ego and intentionally defiling God's Will and descending the Cross on the back of the serpent also grants certain advantages.

Did Christ not specifically say, "it would be better for a millstone to be hung around the neck and a person thrown into the sea, than for them to cause these little ones to sin"?

Why are we repeatedly hearing rumors of the elite being involved in pederasty, spirit cooking's, and exsanguination for adrenochrome harvesting eminating from the global consciousness?

Would these actions not be a direct and knowingly deliberate act of opposing God's Will, while being rewarded with the Prince of the Air, and ruler of THIS world's favor, by the Bible's own admission?

What do you think the whole 40 days of fasting and temptation of Christ was all about?

[Gravydoo II]

How about that right wing violence in an effort to find the voter fraud?? So, this van had 750,000 ballots in the back of it. An AC van. So the investigator crashed his truck into the van, jumps out, sticks a gun in the drivers face. He then yanks him out and handcuffs him. They search the van. Nothing.

Now hes facing up to 30 years for his insane attack on this innocent man. He started with the idea "this man is the master mind to the voter fraud scandal" then went to find the crime. Thats not how investigations work. At all.

https://abc13.com/mark-anthony-aguir...OppKAJrjSnjKyQ

[Gwaihir]

Originally Posted by Gravydoo II [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know christians are taught that atheists "hate" god or are "mad at" god but in all honesty, most atheists dont even think about god, ever. Its just not in our heads. We dont care. We have no skin in the game. We dont think we were forsaken, left to twist in the wind, blame god for our lives or misdeeds, none of it. We dont consider it, ever. You know why? Cause we dont believe in it.

Why would someone be mad at something they dont believe in...? Its like being mad at santa claus or the easter bunny, when you're 30. You see how silly that sounds? Do you blame santa when you car breaks down or you get a speeding ticket?? No.

So why would we be mad, blame, or hate something we dont even believe exists or ever has existed??

That's why the typifier "or blasphemer" was included. Why would a hylic pay any heed to these things?

However

There is a large contingent of people who would identify under the atheist umbrella whilst actually taking a very vindictive counter position to Christianity, specifically. Trolls who would willingly go out of their way to attack and denigrate Christianity while simultaneously embracing social doctrine that doesn't focus the same ire toward Muslims and Talmudic Jews (or Samaritans, or Rosicrucians for that matter)

It seems impossible to rationalize these individuals under the same category as agnostic atheists who disregard spirituality entirely, including any public discourse of said irrelevant topics. Would you not agree?

[Gwaihir]

For example, throughout the classic era on Green, I bound bible verses such as Psalms 119:130 for my clarity hotkey;

The unfolding of your words gives light; it gives understanding to the simple.

A relevant verse for giving one clarity from an enchanter named Christendom.

Undoubtedly, even amongst lowbey groups I was frequenting with free buffs, I would run across someone who literally flew off the handle threatening me, and petitioning me. Among the tells from one jackass was the proud declaration that he was an atheist, before later compounding the claim to take a more vitriolic Heil Satan approach.

Even had a GM message me once in response and I simply told him, look man. I'm just giving people free buffs. I didn't even argue back with the guy. Check the logs, he's been rabting and raving at me for 30 unanswered tells in a row because I gave him and his entire group free buffs.

I didn't create that hatred and animosity within these people, it was already there, just waiting for a target to project their feelings of contempt and animosity onto.

[Gravydoo II]

Well yea. Wouldnt you say that christianity has an undeserved position in our society? Wow, building million dollar churches really helps the community. Not like they could have used that money to help the people in their congregation.. Why do christians deserve a seat at every table, simply for being christians? Why is that nearly a requirement in most states to be elected? Because of christians spreading lies about atheists and how they have no morals because they dont believe in a higher power.

Taking a stance against christianity and a stance against god are two different things. One is real, actually effects people on earth. They claim to be a charity but who do they help, exactly? Their 501c is abused at every chance they get. New tires for the mercedes? Oh its for the church... tax free.

In high school a couple of my class mates did and experiment to see which churches actually help people if you go to them in need. Not one of them offered anything but "council" and some old dirty clothes. No financial help, no help with doctors appointments, no help with anything. I thought a charity was supposed to help people in need? Not here, apparently. We went to 37 churches in the area.

One offered to sell us a gallon of a cure all that could cure cancer, parvo, std's, and basically any other disease for the low low price of 800 dollars. Oh and lots of books, they offered lots of books to buy, tapes to buy, all to "help" with our situations. Isnt that disgusting to you?

Many of the kids involved lived in abject poverty, drug addicted parents, suffered from mental illness of physical impairments.. People who actually needed help. None was offered in any form.

The local mosque in my area was burned down by a christian on a motorcycle. The local synagogue and Hindi churches were also vandalized. I also dont see muslims and jews on my street corners with signs and huge crosses yelling at traffic. I dont see them going around burning churches. I dont see them running youth groups that turn out to be very bad places for kids to go. I dont see them running conversation camps. I dont see them condemning gay people, openly, for simply loving someone. I dont see them opening day cares to pound allah or yaweh into kids heads, like I see in my town.

I see sikhs shaving their beards for covid, not claiming they have a religious exemption from wearing a mask. I dont see jews or muslims trying to force their religious icons and commandments onto state property then crying about it when its found to be unconstitutional, again, but insisting it should stay. I just dont see it, not locally anyways. I see christian politicians spending tax payer money fighting losing court battles, wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars on their own arrogance by denying invocations from any non-christian and giving permission to put religious symbols on state property. Then they lose in court, every time. Billions have been utterly wasted this way. All because of their own entitlement. I dont see jews or muslims on tv, lying to everyone about how prayer is BANNED in schools and their holy books are ILLEGAL in schools. Lying about how evil atheists are and how evil colleges are for teaching science.

See my point? They draw the ire of people because they feel like they deserve to be number 1, always. Never denied. Their arrogance and self-entitlement is so over the top. They feel like they deserve total domination of the USA, all its schools, all its institutions, and should have control of what your kids learn in school.

Do they not claim that the USA is a christian nation, all the time? Its not. It was formed as a secular nation with clear boundaries between church and state. Churches say they are entitled to tax payer money, even when they pay no tax. They will lie, cheat, and steal to get money. Like from the PPP program. Are you a church or a business? A church when it comes to paying taxes, a business when it comes to asking the government for money. How can they have it both ways? They preach politics from the pulpits, should result in a loss of their 501c but it never does. I wonder why...