ASOIAF / Game of Thrones (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[holahouze]

Originally Posted by Pringles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So much for the rumor that Kit cut his hair.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/06/entert...eat/index.html

Also, I am re-watching GoT series (finished S1), and there is no way Jon is gone, there is way too much foreshadowing, even in the TV series. He'll be back. My money is still on him being a Baratheon (Robert) / Stark (Lyanna), even more so after watching S1 again.

One way or another, Jon Snow will be back. He might be hanging out in a meat locker for a while, but as many others have said, he's at the heart of the story.

Robert + Lyanna = Jon would be huge upset in the asoiaf world. The HBO series doesn't provided enough detail to sort it out, but in-book, major issues, such as proximity, work against our theory.

[Pringles]

Originally Posted by Sidelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, haven't you heard? Kit Harington's curls and Matt Damon's ponytail are currently dating. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

haha i just found out about Damon's ponytail today as well!

[Pringles]

Originally Posted by holahouze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One way or another, Jon Snow will be back. He might be hanging out in a meat locker for a while, but as many others have said, he's at the heart of the story.

Robert + Lyanna = Jon would be huge upset in the asoiaf world. The HBO series doesn't provided enough detail to sort it out, but in-book, major issues, such as proximity, work against our theory.

Ya i have no idea, just going with what makes sense to me based on what I know. I think its going to come down to Danny (Fire) + Jon (Ice) kicking ass against the white walkers and taking back the throne together.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Pringles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dont read the books, only watched the shows and dont recall any of that. Everything I know from the show says he belongs to Ned - interesting. Though I want to go back and re-watch the series again, I'm sure Ive missed countless things.

https://youtu.be/v9Mp8MzAjAY (Youre Welcome)

Originally Posted by Pringles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya... my wife has read them, I am not much of a reader though. I made it halfway through the first book (I really liked it - just not much of a reader.....)

audio books, or youtube. listen while you do other things [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Pringles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya i have no idea, just going with what makes sense to me based on what I know. I think its going to come down to Danny (Fire) + Jon (Ice) kicking ass against the white walkers and taking back the throne together.

well yes to the first part for sure. as far as them ruling together, i dunno. theres no assurance that Westeros will still be one kingdom when all is said and done. i could Jon ruling the north, and Dany ruling the south. i can also see Dany or Jon possibly dying / sacrificing themselves to save all of us in some heroic last stand against the white walkers, and the other one ruling over Westeros. But should Jon ever be legitimized, he'll actually have a better claim to the throne than Dany, as

 

Jon is Rhaegar's son,

and Dany was Rhaegar's younger sister. But as Targs have wed each other for many generations over, it wouldn't be a big deal to anyone except followers of the faith of the seven.

[holahouze]

Originally Posted by Pringles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya i have no idea, just going with what makes sense to me based on what I know. I think its going to come down to Danny (Fire) + Jon (Ice) kicking ass against the white walkers and taking back the throne together.

I don't know if Jon and Dany will wind up on the same side. I don't know if the white walkers are the bad guys. Got to hear both sides...

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://youtu.be/v9Mp8MzAjAY (Youre Welcome)


audio books, or youtube. listen while you do other things [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is a cool video. Never searched for anything like that. Thanks.

[India]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well yes to the first part for sure. as far as them ruling together, i dunno. theres no assurance that Westeros will still be one kingdom when all is said and done. i could Jon ruling the north, and Dany ruling the south. i can also see Dany or Jon possibly dying / sacrificing themselves to save all of us in some heroic last stand against the white walkers, and the other one ruling over Westeros. But should Jon ever be legitimized, he'll actually have a better claim to the throne than Dany, as and Dany was Rhaegar's younger sister. But as Targs have wed each other for many generations over, it wouldn't be a big deal to anyone except followers of the faith of the seven.

You are immersed...

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by India [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are immersed...

youre just now figuring that out? :P

[Sirken]

omg, i just thought of something.

we know the 3 eyed raven ( aka Bloodraven, aka Brynden Rivers), and Bittersteel (aka Aegor Rivers) never got along, and that Bittersteel had a special loathing for Bloodraven, and Bloodraven's mother. we know that Bittersteel went on to form the Golden Company in Essos, and that when he died, he had them boil the flesh off his skull and dip it in gold, and then carry it before them when they cross the narrow sea to retake Westeros.

soo, fast forward 80-82 years to book 5 - Tyrion and Illyrio are chatting and the halfman asks Illyrio point blank how he got the Golden Company to break its contract with Myr, and Illyrio tells him that some contracts are written in ink and other contracts are written in blood. Tyrion reminds Illyrio that the Golden Company has been fighting the Targs for 80 years, and how on earth Illyrio got them to support and fight for a Targaryen, to which Illyrio tells him black or red, a dragon is still a dragon. sooo, a red dragon is Targaryen, and the black dragon is Blackfyre but both share the blood of King Aegon IV.

(let's completely ignore the "young griff is a blackfyre" implications and theories for a bit, and stay focused like a deathray.)

BUT THEN we find out the Golden Company is sick of Illyrio's constantly changing plan (first Viserys was supposed to bring 50k dothraki, then it was suppose to be Daenarys, then they were supposed to meet Dany in Volantis, but she decided to stay in Mereen), and they decide to swear allegiance to young griff, and then sail with Connington and young griff to the Stormlands in Westeros and take over Griffin's Roost, Greenstone, Rain House, and Crows Nest, and we learn towards the end of book 5 their next target is the Baratheon seat of Storm's End.

AND THIS is why i now think Bloodraven and Dany can work together. the only reason Bloodraven would ever ever ever have cause to help a Targaryen like Dany, would be if it was to prevent Bittersteel's sellsword company from placing someone on the iron throne, and to prevent the Golden Company from essentially winning the game of thrones.

that being said, whitewalkers and shit. i get that Bloodraven is very busy this time of year.

[Patriam1066]

Wasn't blood raven a Targaryen loyalist and hand of the king during the first blackfyre rebellion? Why wouldn't he side with a true born Targ? Also, I'm not that focused I guess.... I subscribe to the theory that Aegon is a Blackfyre.