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Eslade · #**201** 11-04-2014, 03:52 PM

lol, no idea where the Colgate quotes came from.

Buhbuh · #**202** 11-04-2014, 04:10 PM

Yeah, I agree with Kergan as a whole but would add that Holocaust was absolutely antagonistic for the sake of drama.

My vision was for us to get along cordially when we first got Holo started, but that very quickly turned to shit for reasons Kergan mentioned and because Holo has a history/ egged Azrael on.

Although when it came time to be serious, Azrael seemed too incensed to care, I guess. That whole recruit/ contest thing came up and now we're where we're at.

Literally the worst thing top guilds can do on a PvP server is keep the lines of honest communication severed. The population will grow and has been steadily, but we still pander to a very small audience when we fight like ten year Olds on the boards. We need to bump it up to 20 years old.

Deluxeee · #**203** 11-04-2014, 04:22 PM

Well said.

Kergan · #**204** 11-04-2014, 04:30 PM

It is made even more ridiculous by the fact everyone here would be considered remarkably similar to one and other if viewed outside our little R99 world.

I will say what annoys me the most is when one group says "play the way we think you should or you're wrong". Nihilum did it to Azrael and Azrael did it/is doing it to Holocaust.

Eslade · #**205** 11-04-2014, 04:32 PM

I liked the way that azrael was trying to grow the population. Have lower guilds go to open raids until they're strong enough to contest. The current holocaust way of join us or you don't get to raid at all wreaks of faggotry.

Sorry.

Nirgon · #**206** 11-04-2014, 04:38 PM

Yeah grow the population by running pure melee disci groups on anything that wasn't Azrael or alt guild or no tag but still Azrael.... tagged.

Makes sense.

HippoNipple · #**207** 11-04-2014, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Eslade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I liked the way that azrael was trying to grow the population. Have lower guilds go to open raids until they're strong enough to contest. The current holocaust way of join us or you don't get to raid at all wreaks of faggotry.

Sorry.

Yes, you could raid while Azrael was on top but only the trash mobs until they came in and took the real mobs. They were basically having small guilds farm the trash for them. They even went as far as telling other guilds to let them know if they wanted to raid so they could oversee it. They could take the top raiders and bring them into their ranks, give away dragons they didn't want to guilds that were cooperating with their dictatorship, and making sure they had influence with whatever was going on.

If you believed their BS to manipulate the server to allow 20-25 guys to dominate all meaningful end game content you are just a mindless pawn.

Kergan · #**208** 11-04-2014, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Eslade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I liked the way that azrael was trying to grow the population. Have lower guilds go to open raids until they're strong enough to contest. The current holocaust way of join us or you don't get to raid at all wreaks of faggotry.

Sorry.

I can't honestly believe you think Azrael was doing anything to grow the population. Telling new players to just form a guild and get a few shit gear dropping pity dragons while simultaneously having their exp groups stomped isn't what I'd call growing the population. Azrael has never and will never care about anyone but their group of 20 people + 15 nutswingers.

Eslade · #**209** 11-04-2014, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, you could raid while Azrael was on top but only the trash mobs until they came in and took the real mobs. They were basically having small guilds farm the trash for them. They even went as far as telling other guilds to let them know if they wanted to raid so they could oversee it. They could take the top raiders and bring them into their ranks, give away dragons they didn't want to guilds that were cooperating with their dictatorship, and making sure they had influence with whatever was going on.

If you believed their BS to manipulate the server to allow 20-25 guys to dominate all meaningful end game content you are just a mindless pawn.

Obviously not ideal, but between the two systems, yeah I pick azrael. Server is going to be real fun when it turns into holocaust vs random small guilds or no competetion at all.

I was behind holocaust when they wanted smaller Guilds . You can see it in my posts around that time but Azrael invites 4 people, holocaust loses it's shit and invites 60% of the server. Can't wait until population stalls out and we have a new glorious blue Wonderland where we all have the same tag and hold hands as we get xp and loot without the fear of bad people coming to pvp us.

Pikrib · #**210** 11-04-2014, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Buhbuh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, I agree with Kergan as a whole but would add that Holocaust was absolutely antagonistic for the sake of drama.

My vision was for us to get along cordially when we first got Holo started, but that very quickly turned to shit for reasons Kergan mentioned and because Holo has a history/ egged Azrael on.

Although when it came time to be serious, Azrael seemed too incensed to care, I guess. That whole recruit/ contest thing came up and now we're where we're at.

Literally the worst thing top guilds can do on a PvP server is keep the lines of honest communication severed. The population will grow and has been steadily, but we still pander to a very small audience when we fight like ten year Olds on the boards. We need to bump it up to 20 years old.

I hate to say this but... I really enjoy the drama + acting like a 10 year old. I can't help it. I can maybe do 15 yr. old, but thats pushing it.