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[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't even tell us what mob you are parsing on lol.

If you bothered to read, I told you what mob a few posts back.

Do you even read posts fully before commenting?

Edit for Hint: read post 221

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you bothered to read, I told you what mob a few posts back.

Do you even read posts fully before commenting?

You gave a vague description. Mob name and precise location, please. I know what post you are referring to, but I am not sure why you cannot just say the name.

You should have told us in the same post as your parse lol.

[Troxx]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Greater_Plaguebone

I told you why I never mentioned the name. It was not to be secretive… it was because on analyzing the data it became apparent that the whole parse was insufficient to draw any conclusions. In that same post I stated as much. The test showed results so wildly in my favor with a 16% difference in damage between 140 and 160 strength that I knew the data was worthless. Nevertheless I posted my findings complete with an honest breakdown of the flaws and the need to scrap and find a more suitable target. Preferably higher level and where I could grind out a session of at least 2 hours. I was there for a total of a dozen or so short runs - not nearly enough data.

Someone came in and needed the camp for VP key. I chose that particular of the 3 skeletons because it was the highest level of them with the biggest max hit.

I would have needed to gather at least 3-5x more total data to help even out the RNG.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Thank you. Next time please just post the mob, and the logs. There is no reason to hide it.

Due to how low your DPS parse was for the 1H weapon you were using, I am pretty sure your parser is bad at this point.

Frostwrath does output good DPS, nowhere near 29 DPS, even on blue mobs.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Due to how low your DPS parse was for the 1H weapon you were using, I am pretty sure your parser is bad at this point.

Frostwrath does output good DPS, nowhere near 29 DPS, even on blue mobs.

I’m inclined to believe it’s pretty accurate. Fully buffed and hasted with 255 strength the Darkmetal Falchion was never an impressive weapon. It fluctuates under FULL buff conditions between 50-60dps with some random fights potentially lower and other really lucky fights maybe closer to 70. So 29dps with 95 strength under the cap, only worn haste at 34% and not using Yaulp - I believe the range of DPS Gamparse was clocking was very accurate.

My NTOV spear is closer to double. It’s nice putting out 80-85 dps on the low end and 115-120 dps on the lucky upper end in groups.

I didn’t have nearly enough fights/data - that was the biggest problem.

If parsed on Mr Turtle and I expect to have much higher numbers.

Because he’s level 5 - not level 43.

Frostwrath is a fine weapon. It shouldn’t be giving you numbers so close to your ToV 2 hander. I suspect it is doing so because … your target was level 5.

Edit: frostwrath will do a lot better than 27/29. Baseline ratio is 15% better and DB contributions with lower delay has a 30% advantage.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m inclined to believe it’s pretty accurate. Fully buffed and hasted with 255 strength it was never an impressive weapon. It fluctuates under FULL buff conditions between 50-60dps. So 29dps with 95 strength under the cap, only worn haste at 34% and not using Yaulp - I believe the range of DPS Gamparse was clocking was very accurate.

I didn’t have nearly enough fights/data - that was the biggest problem.

If parsed on Mr Turtle and I expect to have much higher numbers.

Because he’s level 5 - not level 43.

Frostwrath is a fine weapon. It shouldn’t be giving you numbers so close to your ToV 2 hander. I suspect it is doing so because … your target was level 5.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Darkmetal_Falchion has a ratio of 1.25 with 34% haste.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Frostwrath has a ratio of 1.46 with 34% haste.

You are not going to be getting less than half my DPS when the ratios are only 15% different. You should be getting at least 40 DPS on average, probably more like 50.

Your parser is bad.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Darkmetal_Falchion has a ratio of 1.25 with 34% haste.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Frostwrath has a ratio of 1.46 with 34% haste.

You are not going to be getting less than half my DPS when the ratios are only 15% different. You should be getting at least 40 DPS on average, probably more like 50.

Your parser is bad.

Baseline ratio is 15% better and DB contributions with lower delay has a 30% advantage.

Those weapons are not in the same ballpark.

Gamparse is fine.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Baseline ratio is 15% better and DB contributions with lower delay has a 30% advantage.

Those weapons are not in the same ballpark.

Gamparse is fine.

You could share the logs so we can confirm it. I am not sure what the big deal is if Gamparse isn't working correctly. That should be a good thing, because you can get better parses using a different program, or manually doing it.

Based on your DPS values, it seems like something fishy is going on with Gamparse. I am guessing it is adding a bunch of extra time to the fight, which will lower the average DPS. It doesn't have a good handle on when the fights start and end.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

bingo bongo /thread

1-2 more DPS isn't going to significantly improve your leveling process. Not /thread at all.

[Snaggles]

For reference, the “info”. I figure rather than just being dismissive of the concept it’s best to show. The setup was rather perfect in terms of isolating variables. I can’t imagine parsing longer to get more consistent results. I’ll just compare myself to other guildies on raid targets over time and draw empirical conclusions.

Earthcaller/Swiftwind = 74,012 over 688 seconds = 107dps average
Vyemm whip/swiftwind = 71,059 over 597 seconds = 119 dps
Vyemm whip/claw of Lightning = 71,542 over 576 seconds = 124 dps
Meljeldin = 74,358 over 605 seconds = 122 dps

As you can see the 2hs is not shining as it should. The dmg bonus/delay is higher than 1h so in harder to damage targets that advantage should be evidently clear. It’s part of the reason mage pets parse along with 1h knights on Vindi where 2h knights are much higher on the chart. Compared on lower level stuff where the the water pet can smoke casual monks.