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Old 06-10-2022, 01:39 PM
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yeah id really rather not hash out why one violent protest is ok and another isn't.

I just want to know what changed in America, that made the right not the establishment anymore.
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Old 06-10-2022, 01:48 PM
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The right has been the establishment for decades, that remains unchanged. Republicans or Democrats, both fundamentally conservative parties and always have been. See Malcolm X and MLK speeches for more exposition

I think what changed most starkly in the last 20-30 years is just access to information
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Old 06-10-2022, 01:49 PM
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I just want to know what changed in America, that made the right not the establishment anymore.
Television, the cell phone, the computer, the internet, social media.
85-90% of the population are obese, complacent, brainwashed, matrix NPC bots
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Old 06-10-2022, 01:49 PM
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The right has been the establishment for decades, that remains unchanged. Republicans or Democrats, both fundamentally conservative parties and always have been. See Malcolm X and MLK speeches for more exposition

I think what changed most starkly in the last 20-30 years is just access to information
Hmm some of us define the right as people who want dresses that cover your knees.

Not do you want an authoritarian dictator. You can have one of those that dictates dresses above knees (for boys).

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Television, the cell phone, the computer, the internet, social media.
85-90% of the population are obese, complacent, brainwashed, matrix NPC bots
Yeah that's 2 for access to information.

What if access to information meant access to propaganda?
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Old 06-10-2022, 01:58 PM
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I can only tell you why I think the right's ideas are generally unpopular, it's just opinions

If you would really like to do sociopolitical theory posting, I am a leftist, I will happily post a huge wall of text that few people will read
Let me profess my one-trick pony skills.
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Old 06-10-2022, 02:04 PM
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Do you disagree? A few years ago they were bandying about the term "alternative facts"

I mean, look at Ooloo dodging the hell out of me pooping on his crappy paper for a more immediate example of the mentality that ultraconservatives have been trained to adopt

Nobody has any primary sources, all we can do is compare things we find that others have put together, debate club style discourse becoming popular is partly because of the format of forums and partly the guise of intellectualism giving more weight to words that are said on a forum. Ben Shapiro uses this guise fairly well to rake in cash

If you speak of your personal experiences, debate club discourse tells us to reject that as "anecdotal"

Just so we are clear, the "left" in the American sense does this too. Remember how they treated Tara Reade after all that MeToo stuff? Once it was not expedient they just threw her out, "believe women" my ass

It's all just ridiculous, I'd become a cynic and check the hell out but that's precisely what power wants me to do, so I stare wide-eyed into the abyss
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Old 06-10-2022, 02:04 PM
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You are anti-American if you are defending anybody that conspired to overthrow the United States of america. I don't know why you people are so infatuated with Donald trump. It's okay to be infatuated with his ideals, it's also okay to hate liberals as if we are Satan spawn. Also okay to look in retrospect at the fact that Donald Trump is a traitor. Just get behind DeSantis or whoever else, but you need to let go of one of the most dangerous people in American history
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Old 06-10-2022, 02:06 PM
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You are anti-American if you are defending anybody that conspired to overthrow the United States of america. I don't know why you people are so infatuated with Donald trump. It's okay to be infatuated with his ideals, it's also okay to hate liberals as if we are Satan spawn. Also okay to look in retrospect at the fact that Donald Trump is a traitor. Just get behind DeSantis or whoever else, but you need to let go of one of the most dangerous people in American history
Oh shut up you idiot
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Old 06-10-2022, 02:09 PM
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You are anti-American if you are defending anybody that conspired to overthrow the United States of america. I don't know why you people are so infatuated with Donald trump. It's okay to be infatuated with his ideals, it's also okay to hate liberals as if we are Satan spawn. Also okay to look in retrospect at the fact that Donald Trump is a traitor. Just get behind DeSantis or whoever else, but you need to let go of one of the most dangerous people in American history
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Old 06-10-2022, 02:18 PM
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You are anti-American if you are defending anybody that conspired to overthrow the United States of america. I don't know why you people are so infatuated with Donald trump. It's okay to be infatuated with his ideals, it's also okay to hate liberals as if we are Satan spawn. Also okay to look in retrospect at the fact that Donald Trump is a traitor. Just get behind DeSantis or whoever else, but you need to let go of one of the most dangerous people in American history
Reads like blood and soil to me.

Enjoy the non judicial branch televised partisan party run trial.

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