Patch Notes: September 8th, 2019

[elwing]

Thanks a lot for all that rogean, I am happy with all your hard work... I submitted the dsetup. Dll to bitdefender... Hopefully if enough ppl do that they might whitelist it quick... My AV has no option to whitelist and running the pc without av is not great, but that's the last grip and it's not your fault..

[Maelonic]

I think people are pretty mad about not having pet windows and extra hot bars are due to having them before then the last patch they take them out

[Crashking]

Originally Posted by Maelonic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think people are pretty mad about not having pet windows and extra hot bars are due to having them before then the last patch they take them out

Of course, people are going to be mad when something is stripped away without any warning. I'm not saying the game is now impossible to play but the patch changes sure helped mess up my game play because I made mistake of trying to bind keys to reopen hot bars that were no longer there. Since I couldn't remember how to unbind them I tried a restore to default for key binds and that screwed the pooch royally to the point it was practically unplayable since I couldn't use WASD to move any more and finally had to log off and pull up a recent backup and redo patching.

Rogean: [Dec2001] Velious UI will be enforced prior to this Era.
Rogean: [Dec2000] Hotbuttons 7-10 will be disabled and hidden prior to this Era.
Rogean: Velious UI is now the default for character select and characters without an INI file.
Rogean: Universally disabled numerous non-classic UI Windows.

In looking over those line it doesn't exactly give good enough description of what changed. The part about Velious UI enforcement eh no big deal because well UI / Character files already created appeared basically the same as last log in. I even swapped though a whole host of UI types to see how they were possibly effected and it seemed minimal, key thing was the lack of the prior # of hotbars.

Without warning now have to go back an customize UI / Hotbar information to fit new system and for 1 character no real worries.. but when you have to do 10, 20, or worse yeah think about it.

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're a perfect example of why non-classic changes are necessary.

You come here to a classic server with the expectation of all past exploitable things being abusable, otherwise it's not legitimized in your mind. You fail to realize that it's not classic to begin with if these things people barely knew about started getting widespread usage, they no longer become classic. Many of these things were changed back then immediately upon developer realizations, for good reason.

To repeat something I said in Discord and to address one item in your list, NToV dragons were never solo pulled to the zone in in Classic with the consistency and precision that we started to see here. People raided NToV like a normal raid zone. A change was needed to return that to be the case. These mobs were rooted in Luclin because it was always intended by the developers that they be fought in or near their lairs.

We will continue to make changes as we feel necessary to restore a classic atmosphere and difficulty, including non-classic changes to meet those goals. To not do so otherwise would result in a server far detrimental to the health of the community as a whole.

I will not be commenting on this again.

@Rogean
I'm okay on the idea of classic intention and the community as a whole, but this bomb shell of UI change up without any warning to allow us to move hotkeys off hotbars that were going to be removed I consider a cluster. While waiting for servers to come back up I noticed a server named: Rogeans Test Server -- might have wanted to have folks check out changes and provide a bit of feedback before dropping such a UI bombshell on what we have all become accustom as the normal. I understand this is what is begin set forth in preparation to GREEN but feel this wasn't the right time / place to go forth with it.

[Katran]

Hotkeys are still in the socials tab.

[Old_PVP]

Originally Posted by Crashking [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

@Rogean
I'm okay on the idea of classic intention and the community as a whole, but this bomb shell of UI change up without any warning to allow us to move hotkeys off hotbars that were going to be removed I consider a cluster. While waiting for servers to come back up I noticed a server named: Rogeans Test Server -- might have wanted to have folks check out changes and provide a bit of feedback before dropping such a UI bombshell on what we have all become accustom as the normal. I understand this is what is begin set forth in preparation to GREEN but feel this wasn't the right time / place to go forth with it.

How much advanced notice do you need to move your hotkeys around? LOL get real. Can't wait until they drop classic UI on you all and ditch item linking! Gonna be some tears.

[erlkoenig]

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[KOOLLAYD]

Can someone link me their v48 please? I want to try and install that and then v49 to see if it sorts anything out. Thanks in advance. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[elwing]

Originally Posted by KOOLLAYD [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can someone link me their v48 please? I want to try and install that and then v49 to see if it sorts anything out. Thanks in advance. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On one computer I did v47->v48->v49 and on another v47->v49 it worked on both. It's seems two common problems seems to be that it's broken on some Mac and that bitdefender don't like a dll and quarantine it, check if your issue is not one of them (the offending dll is dsetup.dll at the root of the p99/eq folder)

[KOOLLAYD]

Originally Posted by elwing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On one computer I did v47->v48->v49 and on another v47->v49 it worked on both. It's seems two common problems seems to be that it's broken on some Mac and that bitdefender don't like a dll and quarantine it, check if your issue is not one of them (the offending dll is dsetup.dll at the root of the p99/eq folder)

I initially thought I did something wrong. I didn't realize off hand they restricted some more of the UI functions. That's my own fault for not reading more first before posting. While I get some of the changes. I don't really get the purpose of removing the menu button or even the friends window given the client they are using. Then again I never understood why we needed EQ Titanium instead of EQ Trilogy either. So there's that also. lol It's all good though. I still wouldn't mind a copy of v48 to drop in my folder of patches so if you or anyone feels like hooking me up it'd be much appreciated. If not that's fine too. Thanks mate. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Zarr]

After the patch I cannot find how to access the screen where you change Res and go from window to full screen . Is that all gone now ? that small EQ button is missing