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Old 02-05-2021, 03:23 AM
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I agree with the kittens sentiment that the purpose of the serpentine draft was to provide the casual community a chance to experience encounters they otherwise wouldn’t. Also ST didn’t exactly do itself any favors by leading with the “where do I sign up for free mobs” statement.

Still, there should be a barrier of entry. ST has ran the green server pretty much since day 1. So in my opinion, they should be held to a little bit higher standard than an established blue leveling guild who managed to take down a vindi.

So what would that barrier be? Tov and velious targets would be close to unfair, as you don’t see non friotag guilds take them down. Vindi is a decent measuring stick.

Player requirements for guild? I think 50 individual players with a level 50+ Is a good number. Assuming 60% of the raid force would show up during prime time raid batphones, thats enough people to take down most content.

I think we should require them to win a contested (non earthquake) kunark dragon + maybe 1 more naggy/vox/fear golem.

Sev, gore, VP. Vp dragons can be done with as low as 9-10 people. If they can snag one, let them on. I can guarantee that we would go hard in the paint to beat them. I personally would find it hilarious to beat their asses in their own kunark ass content. I hate VP, but I would show up to a VP sock If I was around if it meant beating ST in Kunark.
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Old 02-05-2021, 04:01 AM
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I agree with the kittens sentiment that the purpose of the serpentine draft was to provide the casual community a chance to experience encounters they otherwise wouldn’t. Also ST didn’t exactly do itself any favors by leading with the “where do I sign up for free mobs” statement.

Still, there should be a barrier of entry. ST has ran the green server pretty much since day 1. So in my opinion, they should be held to a little bit higher standard than an established blue leveling guild who managed to take down a vindi.

So what would that barrier be? Tov and velious targets would be close to unfair, as you don’t see non friotag guilds take them down. Vindi is a decent measuring stick.

Player requirements for guild? I think 50 individual players with a level 50+ Is a good number. Assuming 60% of the raid force would show up during prime time raid batphones, thats enough people to take down most content.

I think we should require them to win a contested (non earthquake) kunark dragon + maybe 1 more naggy/vox/fear golem.

Sev, gore, VP. Vp dragons can be done with as low as 9-10 people. If they can snag one, let them on. I can guarantee that we would go hard in the paint to beat them. I personally would find it hilarious to beat their asses in their own kunark ass content. I hate VP, but I would show up to a VP sock If I was around if it meant beating ST in Kunark.
Better see you on the line for gore tomorrow my friend.
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Old 02-05-2021, 11:53 AM
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Gore w 9-10 people?

Would be quite a kill in the SoulFireless / No Push era.
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Old 02-05-2021, 12:21 PM
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Gore w 9-10 people?

Would be quite a kill in the SoulFireless / No Push era.
one day I will achieve my dream of a druid-only gorenaire kill.
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Old 02-05-2021, 12:34 PM
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one day I will achieve my dream of a druid-only gorenaire kill.

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Old 02-05-2021, 12:22 PM
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There's an easy way to solve this so everyone gets what they want

Is ST is going to be an active presence on blue allow them into the draft

If ST is like twochainz says and a bunch of frag/riot/kitttens/insertguildnamehere alts then at the end of the draft week compare isp/hwid/client logs to the encounter logs and permanently ban any accounts that double dip

This will ensure that ST is a legitimate stand alone entity and will punish those who undermine the draft by double dipping... win/win
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Old 02-05-2021, 12:31 PM
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Gore w 9-10 people?

Would be quite a kill in the SoulFireless / No Push era.
Doable with the right tactics
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Old 02-05-2021, 01:21 PM
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Doable with the right tactics
BardFTE+MT group
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Could prob do it if all heals are reapers or worts and Wizards each have Confal wands.
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Old 02-05-2021, 12:26 PM
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Ahhha no no. We are as active as we have time. None of us to my knowledge need to do any further xping or farming entry level items. So we will log in for the pops we have numbers for.

You don't get to make up new rules on the fly... well maybe you do. I can't imagine staff agreeing to this but maybe they're just exhausted from it and following the path of least resistance.

The system offered has been exposed as a fraud.

Green (not specifically ST) allows for open raiding. There's no games, gimmicks or moving goal posts. You show up and roll on items. You can even ask to be the person who pulls or tanks if you seem able.
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Old 02-05-2021, 12:28 PM
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Soooo you want in but you don't want to have consequences for double dipping the draft ( something GMs have already said they don't want )


It sounds like your a bunch of alts that want to double dip and undermine the draft for selfish reasons... if you aren't and want to be a legitimate part of the blue scene this shouldn't be an issue
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