Lord Nagafen & Lady Vox status (post 52 restriction)

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

not all of them are, they just have a habit of grandfathering their dicks into officer positions.

not that i disagree with you, it's just hard to account for everyone's behavior when your guild is that big. of course the guild is that big because the rules *still* favor larger guilds (thanks for that, btw) and it nips them in the butt repeatedly. I think they can do quite a bit to change the way they approach the game though, as that's probably their, and TMO's, biggest issue at the moment.

[SupaflyIRL]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

not that i disagree with you, it's just hard to account for everyone's behavior when your guild is that big. of course the guild is that big because the rules *still* favor larger guilds (thanks for that, btw) and it nips them in the butt repeatedly. I think they can do quite a bit to change the way they approach the game though, as that's probably their, and TMO's, biggest issue at the moment.

The phrase is "nip in the bud" which means stopping something before it starts, the phrase you are looking for is "bites them in the ass". You're welcome.

[Nedala]

Originally Posted by Badmartigan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

both sides have done this...

why is everyone so addicted to calling the kettle black ?

i never claimed we didnt.

@ yendor: sorry but zoning into fear first, on a server repop isnt out-mobilizing. It would be very lame if we werent even allowed to compete for CT just cause a guild zoned in earlier than us. I remember when DA,IB and even Divinity leapfrogged us (DW/Remedy) in fear and hate numerous times on inny, draco, maestro and CT, and i always found its totally legit. I didnt enjoy it, but they just were better than we were and got the kills most of the time. Thats real competition imo.

I wouldnt even call it leapfrogg what we did in fear yesterday, as almost all mobs were still up.

Naggy is a different story and id prefere to just leave that one to taken, like i said.

[Ring]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stop leapfrogging other guilds because your leadership advertised that you take the high road and that he puts the server first. I think we would all agree that putting the server first includes making it a nicer place to play FOR ALL OF US -- i.e. when my guild (or any guild) is clearing Fear to take on CT, we should not have to worry about TR coming in and sniping CT on us, that TR would actually take the high road as your leader claims you are expected to, respect the raid force in zone, and at least let us attempt CT. If we fail, fine... grab it. You're so convinced no guild can do what you do anyway, what have you got to lose?

If they mobilized faster than you, let them try it. That's the competition you wanted. This "they actually did beat us.... holy shit... well, F that.. snipe the mob from them anyway" BS has got to stop. From whichever guilds are doing it.

Why do you think mobilizing ends at the zone-in line? It ends at engaging the actual raid mob. Just because you zoned first doesn't mean you own it and they should give you free reign to take your time to engage. If you truly out mobilized them show it in the results (first to engage) rather than stomping your feet and screaming about how it was your mob and how unfair life is.

No one who has killed CT recently (well, just TR the pass couple of months I suppose) actually clears Fear. They train mobs, engage and kill him before they wipe. If your guild can't do CT without clearing the whole zone maybe you need to work on that instead of whining about being "sniped".

[SupaflyIRL]

Originally Posted by Ring [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you think mobilizing ends at the zone-in line? It ends at engaging the actual raid mob. Just because you zoned first doesn't mean you own it and they should give you free reign to take your time to engage. If you truly out mobilized them show it in the results (first to engage) rather than stomping your feet and screaming about how it was your mob and how unfair life is.

No one who has killed CT recently (well, just TR the pass couple of months I suppose) actually clears Fear. They train mobs, engage and kill him before they wipe. If your guild can't do CT without clearing the whole zone maybe you need to work on that instead of whining about being "sniped".

Realized last night, being on the receiving end of this, that I don't have the stomach for this stuff anymore.

[Klyre]

Originally Posted by Ring [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you think mobilizing ends at the zone-in line? It ends at engaging the actual raid mob. Just because you zoned first doesn't mean you own it and they should give you free reign to take your time to engage. If you truly out mobilized them show it in the results (first to engage) rather than stomping your feet and screaming about how it was your mob and how unfair life is.

No one who has killed CT recently (well, just TR the pass couple of months I suppose) actually clears Fear. They train mobs, engage and kill him before they wipe. If your guild can't do CT without clearing the whole zone maybe you need to work on that instead of whining about being "sniped".

Wow, I am always amazed at the excuses people give for lack of courtesy.

[Tiggles]

Kinsawt and getsome are the problems with TR. They only care about being number one and will cheat exploit and be terrible to everyone in order to do this.

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Mobilizing ending at the raid mob always leads to trouble. There has to be a line drawn such as the raid at the bind corner in solb, or the bridge in traks lair. If your raid is sitting up outside Innys' room in hate. There has to be some line or else it just leads to chaos.

Fear is a different story I'll grant you but I don't agree with "if your guild can't zerg and kill him before you wipe" argument. It is the reality here unfortunately but that can change. On live we would not zone in if another guild was there but I don't see any issue with multiple guilds going for CT as it is a different situation. There does need to be a line though, when another guild kills half the zone you don't roll in and gank the mob.

[bluejam]

@Shaere: Vox banishes. Naggy doesn't right now for some reason.

[Shiftin]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kinsawt and getsome are the problems with TR. They only care about being number one and will cheat exploit and be terrible to everyone in order to do this.

You really want to keep making lies and shit up outside of R&F? Do you want to talk about what TMO has done just within the last week? Keep your nonsense trolling in R&F.

PS thanks for the apps.