RMT Again

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

or some asshole sitting there all day selling loot rights, as would be his right to do under the proposed rules

Possible... Yes.

But that's far more inconvenient and volatile of a market to be sustainable. The minute someone isn't there and the piece drops or mob spawns, you lose out on your platinum because they aren't there.

If AC spawns and no one is there who wants to buy loot rights, then what? Can't really just kite him around. Or I suppose you could if you're a dick.

Same goes for most epic pieces.

[Argh]

Outlawing MQ sales would probably make it much easier for RMT to take place, because every MQ transaction would then have no corresponding plat transaction, whereas now only RMT and guildbank/friend MQs have no plat trail.

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Less than 1% eh - did you do a poll?

Way to completely avoid the valid point I made regarding the scarcity of some of these "classic feature" and be a dick all at the same time!

Please introduce any evidence whatsoever supporting a claim that any of previously named mechanics were in any way widespread or common.

[quido]

I really have no idea what that figure actually should be, but I think saying less than 1% of classic EQ players knew of multiquesting is completely ludicrous

say what you mean

[Argh]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please introduce any evidence whatsoever supporting a claim that any of previously named mechanics were in any way widespread or common.

MQ epics/item recharging was available/known to more than 99% of classic live.

You couldn't walk through EC without running into sub-level 10 traders in their custom velious crowns.

People sold Rogue epic MQs, Skyshrine quest armor MQs, Kael quest armor MQs, all the time on live.

[Thulack]

Velious armor was MQ tons on lower level toons because there was no level restrictions on the clickies. Nothing like a level 25 necro running around with a robe that had conjure corpse clickie.

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

MQ epics/item recharging was available/known to more than 99% of classic live.

You couldn't walk through EC without running into sub-level 10 traders in their custom velious crowns.

People sold Rogue epic MQs, Skyshrine quest armor MQs, Kael quest armor MQs, all the time on live.

Maybe in very late Velious. Certainly not through classic Kunark and the majority of Velious. The constricted timeline alone prevented top guilds from fully fearing their own let alone selling MQ in game.

Similiarly, boxing occured occasionally in top guilds but was almost never seen among the casual player base.

FoH, LoS, BotS, Afterlife, made up what percent of their total server population? And even among them, my memory of classic was that lots of these mechanics were not widely shared until much later in the timeline even between guildmembers.

Is 1% an estimate? Sure, but it conveys my point that many of these mechanics were much less prevalent than other insist.

[maskedmelon]

JBoots were always MQ'd too. Everybody knew that :P Whatcha talkin' 'bout Ducks?

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

JBoots were always MQ'd too. Everybody knew that :P Whatcha talkin' 'bout Ducks?

Yeah MQ of jboots was pretty common. I guess I'm talking about MQ of epics and Other high end items till much later in the time line.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Outlawing MQ sales would probably make it much easier for RMT to take place, because every MQ transaction would then have no corresponding plat transaction, whereas now only RMT and guildbank/friend MQs have no plat trail.

I dont follow your logic on how outlawing it make RMT easier.

I'm sure people buy RMT epics already... In which case no play exchange happens anyways.

Currently MQs happen:
RMT - No plat exchange
Guildies/Friends - No plat exchange
MQ sale - Large sum of plat given in an empty trade.

Banning MQ sales:
Same as above but no MQ sales. Maybe some lazy people shift to RMT. Maybe some shift to joining guild/making friends. Maybe some start to give away free epic pieces just to help dudes.

Anywho I just thought it would be an interesting change on the server. Seeing less shitsocking Ragefire or pickpocketting rogue GMs or buying pipe MQs. Maybe more people helping others out and offering those MQs for free to be a nice dude.