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Old 10-09-2015, 03:48 PM
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you have to be a total newbie/retard to think that iksar isn't leaps and bounds ahead of every other race for necromancer/monk
I was also in disbelief when I read this thread. The autism levels are out of this world.
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Old 10-09-2015, 05:58 PM
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I was also in disbelief when I read this thread. The autism levels are out of this world.
And these posts are the worst in the thread. Not only are they wrong but they don't attempt to discuss a relevant point.
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Old 10-09-2015, 06:13 PM
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And these posts are the worst in the thread. Not only are they wrong but they don't attempt to discuss a relevant point.
I very much agree.
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Old 10-09-2015, 06:18 PM
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Is there some new data here? or why is this being discussed this was determined a non debatable subject for years and now all of the sudden people are trying to dispute the findings?

or is what we have here is a religious based argument against a scientific one?
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Old 10-09-2015, 06:36 PM
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somehow the debate shifted from "what's the best necromancer race?" to "does min/maxing even matter?"

with the latter crowd being the more vocal ones in a thread that isn't even really relevant to them.
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Old 10-09-2015, 06:38 PM
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escapegoat is a good game.
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Old 10-09-2015, 07:15 PM
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somehow the debate shifted from "what's the best necromancer race?" to "does min/maxing even matter?"

with the latter crowd being the more vocal ones in a thread that isn't even really relevant to them.
There's certain things like this and stun vs regen for shaman that can be discussed forever pretty much since the term "best" can mean a lot of different things.

Is the best set up for raiding necessarily the best set up for soloing and are either of them necessarily the best set up for grouping?

Is the way you're going to utilize your necro relevant to the extra regen? On the surface you might think the obvious answer is yes but there's a lot of discussion and observation involved here.
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Old 10-09-2015, 07:42 PM
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no, you're still discussing whether or not min/maxing matters, not whether or not iksar are the best min/max race.

stun resistance vs. regen for shamans is a different story because its two worthwhile racials. what other necro race has a worthwhile racial ability? there's a small argument to be made for dark elf hide i suppose. and gnome tinkering. and faction from anyone. but that's about it, and if we're talking about end-game performance then hide and faction are negated by CoS and grinding.

there are no other racial bonuses that hold a candle to iksar regen. whether or not that matters to you is up to you.
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Old 10-09-2015, 07:46 PM
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I just hit lvl 49 on my necro and the lich is really starting to eat me alive now. I wish I had that regen. I can lifetap, but i really don't want to be forced to all the time. If i'm not constantly killing then im clicking off lich which is bad. I guess i got what i wanted, a dark elf. no regrets though, other than 49 lvls.
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Old 10-09-2015, 07:51 PM
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I just hit lvl 49 on my necro and the lich is really starting to eat me alive now. I wish I had that regen. I can lifetap, but i really don't want to be forced to all the time. If i'm not constantly killing then im clicking off lich which is bad. I guess i got what i wanted, a dark elf. no regrets though, other than 49 lvls.
You notice it at this level and then at level 60 with Demi Lich just how much you get destroyed by the lack of Iksar regen.

Was at a raid on my Necro the other day with Demi Lich rolling + Druid Regrowth BP clicks I didn't lose mana while sitting and could maintain Lich the entire raid even when no mobs were in camp.

Any other race would've been losing 10 HP/tick while sitting under those circumstances.
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