What is gender REALLY?

[James_Joyce]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dude do u even know what my homeostasis is/was

you seem like you religiously believe that u shouldn't do anything other than eat raw red meat because we were designed to live and die by spear.

It's ok to like u know use plants, and science, to better ones life and ones self and to live in balance with ones inner and outerself better.

You are spouting the same stuff my poor racist alchoholic uncle did before he died of cigarate addiction.

Sad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] sorry to go to the racist card again.

I loved him dearly and he was a great man. But jesus dood.

It's OK to do things that help you live a positive life and bring joy and beauty into the world. If thats what you believe in.

I guess it's ok to worship dark gods of manmeat, but Uhh... IDK it's hard telling what you want other than to tell me that I'm a wretched bad person.

The ultimate goal of all my posting on these boards is to drive you to become a better person. As I have said here in the past, I am a being of love and pure light.

I don't know everything about you, but I'm positive your physical body was not at homeostasis at birth with a large dose of antidepressants and exogenous hormones in your bloodstream. The idea that it's acceptable to live daily life addicted to chemicals that don't do anything for your health, but instead just make you feel different enough to hide from reality, is toxic and evil and deeply disturbing to hear coming from medical authority figures. You want to joke about me worshiping dark gods?

Did you ever try losing the weight, getting out of the hellish labyrinth of Satanism that is the US military, and trying to do something crazy and exciting all simultaneously before the hormones and antidepressants? Or has there been nonstop overlap between military, antidepressants and/or hormones, being overweight, and being sedentary since the time you enlisted?

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by James_Joyce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The ultimate goal of all my posting on these boards is to drive you to become a better person. As I have said here in the past, I am a being of love and pure light.

I don't know everything about you, but I'm positive your physical body was not at homeostasis at birth with a large dose of antidepressants and exogenous hormones in your bloodstream. The idea that it's acceptable to live daily life addicted to chemicals that don't do anything for your health, but instead just make you feel different enough to hide from reality, is toxic and evil and deeply disturbing to hear coming from medical authority figures. You want to joke about me worshiping dark gods?

Did you ever try losing the weight, getting out of the hellish labyrinth of Satanism that is the US military, and trying to do something crazy and exciting all simultaneously before the hormones and antidepressants? Or has there been nonstop overlap between military, antidepressants and/or hormones, being overweight, and being sedentary since the time you enlisted?

Dood yes. Lol. I even had sex and proposed to marry a sweet girl with 3 kids. Worked many different jobs. IT, and labor, and retail sales associate, everything from life sucking drudgery, to exciting bullshit with the satans army. Climbing mountains. Archery, Skydiving, lots of traveling to the coastal states. Digital forensics, hacking, electrical engineering, computer security and intrusion detection, college, welding. I was a regular jack of all trades, master of none, bored with all the fucking shit 1% er.

I did most of that because I had to survive though. Or prove something to myself, or face death. Or push myself past death. I even had a brief unfulfilling period of hanging with my bros at the strip clubs and hookers, and fighting in parking lots and just being fucking nuts.

Also, it's impossible to satisfy a partner if you can't ever satisfy yourself. And I'm talking about more than sex. I'm talking about as a couple, a partner, a team. If you hate yourself, or are jealous, or unsatisfied with yourself, your partner can never fill that void.

Shit I did tons of glorious shit in my 30 previous years on this earth. But living in denial eventually drove me more and more towards alcoholism (to self medicate) and isolation and anger. Until I decided facing what my real problems were with myself.

I was in great fit shape most of that time from 20-30. I know who I am [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now I am perusing a creative side, I do nails, and I do hair, and I am re-learning how to draw. And I want to learn to sing and dance. I couldn't do that as a guy because of the shame and hate I had for myself. And because I really was raised to hate women, femininity, and 'the inferior' sex. The one I always identified with, even pre-puberty and post puberty. I had a twisted childhood that didn't let me discover or be who I wanted to be. That little girl who always wanted to save the environment/dolphins, but no I got my face beat in on the playground and at home every damn day until I was able to dish it back out.

Then I kept everyone so far away out of fear for my, and their safety because I was truly a really crazy motherfucker. That is/was hell. Also living with that much stress and adrenaline, and wanting to kill everything that ever moved because everything is a threat. Because you cant let your guard down ever, or show your true self ever, or emotion, or weakness ever.

You tell me, should I hate myself, my body, my societally assigned gender and gender role and be constantly suicidal.
Or should I find solace that in transitioning I can fully express who I am and reconcile my spirtual and analytical rational self with my organic meatsack?

[James_Joyce]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKJ2CeVEzPo

[Filthy_Pagan]

Speaking of welfare, I think transexuals deserve their own form of ensured welfare as a sort of reparations. They have historically endured the worst discrimination in history and I think that we as a society should set aside enough tax money to support them fully.

[Sidelle]

Legit question for the transgendered in this thread: Did you always have a feeling that you were a girl on the inside, even as a child, or was it a realization you came to during adolescence/adulthood? For example, gay people often say they always knew even as young children what their inclinations were. I'm wondering if it's the same for trans people.

The reason I'm asking is because there seems to be an increasing amount of children, even the younger ones, that are now identifying themselves as transgendered. There are enough of them now that some schools have had problems arise over which bathrooms they should use. There's even been controversy over using the words "boys" and "girls" at all, as if they're offensive words because it's considered "labeling" the kids. (Anyone else remember the news story a while back about how some school started a policy where the teachers were told to refer to all the kids as "purple penguins" instead of "boys" and "girls"? I thought that was the stupidest thing I'd ever heard... LOL)

And then there's this article below, which equates calling a child "boy" or "girl" is the same as referring to them based on things like race, religion, etc:

Originally Posted by tolerance.org

Imagine if a teacher used race labels in similar fashion: "Good morning, whites and blacks." Or used ethnicity as a way to organize classroom activities: "Latinos, get your backpacks now."

Most readily expect such practices would increase — not decrease — children's racial stereotyping and prejudice. Gender labeling works in a similar way to increase children's gender stereotyping bias.

Too often, teachers use gendered terms in the classroom — boys, girls, men, women — without thinking about the impact of such words. New research suggests, however, that such language draws children's attention to gender — rather than other more important characteristics of individuals within classroom settings, such as their personalities or skills.

This practice also leads children to believe that teachers' are intentionally signaling the existence of important differences between genders — even when they are not. When teachers use noun labels rather than adjectives to describe any group of people — girls, Native Americans, Catholics — children are likely to believe the people in that group share meaningful and unseen characteristics. That, then, is how the seeds of stereotyping are planted.

This shit is confusing enough for me. I can't imagine how confusing it must be for all children, transgendered or not, growing up in the Age of Information (is the Age of TMI responsible for confusing the shit out of our kids to some extent?). It's really insane trying to compare my own childhood back in the 80s and 90s to the world today. That shit was practically "Little House on the Prairie" compared to now. And it never fails... Just when you think political correctness and tolerance has officially become as ridiculous as it's gonna get (...purple penguins!...) - somehow, somewhere - it always manages to reach a whole new realm of what the fuck?. What's next?

[maerilith]

*Yes I always knew
*no some people don't

*** It's not hard to deal with it, it's not a major problem except for adults freaking the fuck out about kids and using them to push their own agenda

[James_Joyce]

Originally Posted by Sidelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Legit question for the transgendered in this thread: Did you always have a feeling that you were a girl on the inside, even as a child, or was it a realization you came to during adolescence/adulthood? For example, gay people often say they always knew even as young children what their inclinations were. I'm wondering if it's the same for trans people.

The reason I'm asking is because there seems to be an increasing amount of children, even the younger ones, that are now identifying themselves as transgendered. There are enough of them now that some schools have had problems arise over which bathrooms they should use. There's even been controversy over using the words "boys" and "girls" at all, as if they're offensive words because it's considered "labeling" the kids. (Anyone else remember the news story a while back about how some school started a policy where the teachers were told to refer to all the kids as "purple penguins" instead of "boys" and "girls"? I thought that was the stupidest thing I'd ever heard... LOL)

And then there's this article below, which equates calling a child "boy" or "girl" is the same as referring to them based on things like race, religion, etc:


This shit is confusing enough for me. I can't imagine how confusing it must be for all children, transgendered or not, growing up in the Age of Information (is the Age of TMI responsible for confusing the shit out of our kids to some extent?). It's really insane trying to compare my own childhood back in the 80s and 90s to the world today. That shit was practically "Little House on the Prairie" compared to now. And it never fails... Just when you think political correctness and tolerance has officially become as ridiculous as it's gonna get (...purple penguins!...) - somehow, somewhere - it always manages to reach a whole new realm of what the fuck?. What's next?

i legit had a fantasy of fucking duke nukem as a female when i was 8 or 9 yrs old. not penetration exactly, more like whatever proto-sexual making out stuff an ignorant preteen thinks instead of real sex acts he has never seen. I guess those sexual audio clips got me pretty worked up. and i turned out a big old homo, as well as andro enough to pass for female in my erry day clothes for most of my adult life (no poison pills and humiliation of ancestors required)

[Lu|zSect]

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[Filthy_Pagan]

Originally Posted by katrik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Um. Yes!

I would like to add, that.. little kids transitioning is disgusting, and allowing anyone under the age of 18 is very wrong and evil. That is such a big decision. I don't think anyone under the age of 18 is mature enough to make that big of a decision, without acknowledging all of the consequences and how awful their life *could* potentially be.

And, for the bathroom issue. I don't know. I see and acknowledge both sides of the issue. On one hand, yes, if a person is making a good, honest attempt to pass then they should be allowed to use the restroom corresponding to their gender. But no, should someone just starting out and clearly unpassable, or some nutcase man in a dress should not be allowed to use it. I have obviously never had a problem using the ladies room, and probably never will. Some of my opinions are pretty unpopular with 'the community' ..but I don't really fit in or try to be a part of that to begin with. My just 2 copper pieces.

So something magically happens on midnight when you turn 18 that makes you able to choose for yourself and make decisions? You're ok with people driving cars at 16 though right? That decision could literally KILL someone.

Originally Posted by katrik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

or some nutcase man in a dress

Please stop with the violent statements. What you mean is a woman in a dress.

[Filthy_Pagan]

Originally Posted by katrik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When they're adults, I guess.

So being adult is defined by age? I bet you think genitals define gender, too, don't you?