It's like RAAAAAINNNNN

[Eponymous Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Chloroform [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would you defend Lostprophet's ? The singer and bluebie who supports child molestation?

isn't he in Aftermath though?

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Eponymous Anonymous [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

isn't he in Aftermath though?

He is currently not tagged Aftermath.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Chloroform [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I need a transfer in the tunnel

lez do eet unload w/ me and ephi dawg

[Cecily]

This isn't about loot, Thulack. It's about be able to take pride in being a part of your guild. I've never killed the AoW before. And my first kill could have been my new guild dropping it by themselves or failing on their own. That would have been fun either way. Instead I got a 4 guild 3k dps overkill 140 player zerg to make it a sure thing. How much pride do you think I felt that day?

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WB Alarti, rnf needs you!

Hey bud [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what alarti is trying to say is that your idea of an accomplishment is killing the mob and getting loot. many others don't think it's an accomplishment to use overwhelming numbers to easily beat a 15 year old elf encounter. at that point, it's a loot vending machine. if you don't care that much about loot, that's not appealing. better to try and possibly fail than to not even try and just death touch the mob with 100 people

Exactly

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Loot is the central reason why people join raid guilds. It is rarely the reason they stay -- but it is the whole damn point of raid guild to begin with.

No one would be staring at a wall for hours if there wasn't loot involved.

Wrong. Competition (was) very invigorating. Also, having played a wizard here since 2009. Loot wasn't a reason for me to raid... There was like 3 items for a wizard pre-VP and maybe 4 or so in VP. I went years without loot and my DKP can attest to that. I enjoyed initially the challenge of being the underdog and competing against, winning against, and then supplanting a initially stronger force. After I had other goals like helping friends etc. End the end I just like playing with pals and killing dragons. Loot didn't make EQ great... community did.

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone has their own ideas of what raiding is. ATeam had their way other guilds have their own. I'm sure if accomplishing something with small numbers was a goal of Cecily she wouldnt have joined Awakened would she? I'm done talking about raiding though. Its the whole reason i quit this game to begin with. 15 years of loving this game to have it destroyed by the way raiding occurs on this server. Only nice thing about it was that it finally opened my eyes to other games out there other then just EQ. For that i guess i am grateful to cesspool that is raiding on p99.

Why are you trying to think for Cecily? I've known Cecily for years her major concerns weren't loot related ever.

Raiding was ruined by raid rules. Or the lack of instancing.

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't about loot, Thulack. It's about be able to take pride in being a part of your guild. I've never killed the AoW before. And my first kill could have been my new guild dropping it by themselves or failing on their own. That would have been fun either way. Instead I got a 4 guild 3k dps overkill 140 player zerg to make it a sure thing. How much pride do you think I felt that day?

Confirmed.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey bud [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Wrong. Competition (was) very invigorating. Also, having played a wizard here since 2009. Loot wasn't a reason for me to raid... There was like 3 items for a wizard pre-VP and maybe 4 or so in VP. I went years without loot and my DKP can attest to that. I enjoyed initially the challenge of being the underdog and competing against, winning against, and then supplanting a initially stronger force. After I had other goals like helping friends etc. End the end I just like playing with pals and killing dragons. Loot didn't make EQ great... community did.

But at first you joined for the loot didn't you?

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But at first you joined for the loot didn't you?

When I left BDA and joined TMO, I was like the 4th or 5th member btw, I was the only level 50 and no other member was above 20. So yes I was after that sweet sweet Upper Guk loot?

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When I left BDA and joined TMO, I was like the 4th or 5th member btw, I was the only level 50 and no other member was above 20. So yes I was after that sweet sweet Upper Guk loot?

Also TMO was a casual guild and had no intentions of raiding competitively.

[k2summit]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When I left BDA and joined TMO, I was like the 4th or 5th member btw, I was the only level 50 and no other member was above 20. So yes I was after that sweet sweet Upper Guk loot?

Typical horseshit alarti. When you left BDA you said we sucked and would never kill a raid mob, so you were leaving to join TMO to raid. What's wrong with telling the truth? There's nothing wrong with what you did. Except talk shit before you left, which is why you are a weasel.

[Susano]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't about loot, Thulack. It's about be able to take pride in being a part of your guild. I've never killed the AoW before. And my first kill could have been my new guild dropping it by themselves or failing on their own. That would have been fun either way. Instead I got a 4 guild 3k dps overkill 140 player zerg to make it a sure thing. How much pride do you think I felt that day?

Best AoW fight I've been a part of wasn't even a kill. First time Rampage engaged him we got him to below 10% iirc, felt really good even though we couldn't seal the deal.

I understand your desire, but unfortunately I think you missed the sweet spot. Now people would rather ally for AoW than risk missing out. Now if you want low number kills you'll just have to wait till a late night pop. Most of the people who were doing Velious for the fun and not for the loot have moved on, so they won't risk low numbers if it can be avoided.