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Old 07-20-2023, 03:54 PM
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My personal experience on some of these points at a 60 raiding rogue:

--You will be at the strength cap the vast, vast majority of the time on any raids. Not having str buffs basically never happens.

--If you play long enough, you will eventually have some encounters where you needed that extra HP. I've caught mobs with Nimble at 1% life before, though only a few times.

--Carrying capacity does matter, I'm at 239 str unbuffed and if I'm soloing Ice Giants or Droga crawling I will go overweight before I run out of bag space with 2 100% WR bags/1 70% WR bag and the rest 10 slot no WR. Its not a big deal but it also does something, 160 strength isn't going to be enough to just do whatever without dealing with going over or having to spend time/possibly lose your camp to sell.

--How often people DI rogues doesn't matter, its whether you intend to get DIs or not. Most people do not, but you can almost certainly have them if you pay for them, so the right question isn't really whether other people are doing it its whether you're going to and whether its worth it in any real situation. I do get it for certain fights, personally, but only ones with actively dangerous AOEs.
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Old 07-20-2023, 03:55 PM
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So the thing about HP is you can keep stacking it with HP from other sources. Then it becomes kind of a lot of HP and you can tank and get CHed, especially in conjunction with high resists and AC.

The problem with high STR is you can't keep stacking it. There's a pretty easily achievable cap, which is obviously 255, at which point the focus changes to stacking +ATK from Aura of Battle gear.

You can't easily cap STA on a rogue. You can easily cap STR on a rogue. Both are important. Which stat should I put more points into? Hmm.
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Old 07-20-2023, 03:59 PM
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Confirmed.
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Old 07-20-2023, 04:00 PM
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I can't tell if you guys are just trolling him or actually think +25 STR is a good idea in Velious, which it's not. Stop it. Please. Don't screw people's characters up.
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Old 07-20-2023, 04:06 PM
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Oh right, there is a niche use I had forgotten about for +Str, since it hasn't really applied to me in most circumstances. If you're Str capped without shaman buffs, you can ask for Talisman in place of Focus and get Bedlam for max starting HP before hitting an AOE fight. That only works if you're either Str capped without Focus or have Avatar though, since it will block.

...I should remember to start asking for that buff stack on stuff where I request Avatar, actually...
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Old 07-20-2023, 04:27 PM
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I can't tell if you guys are just trolling him or actually think +25 STR is a good idea in Velious, which it's not. Stop it. Please. Don't screw people's characters up.
Many of them are trolling. They hop from thread to thread trying to troll at every opportunity they get. Why? I am not sure. It doesn't help. I do hope they stop, as it just muddies the water. It's hard to give people correct information because of this kind of behavior.
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Old 07-20-2023, 05:48 PM
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Bingo.
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Old 07-20-2023, 08:29 PM
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Many of them are trolling. They hop from thread to thread trying to troll at every opportunity they get. Why? I am not sure. It doesn't help. I do hope they stop, as it just muddies the water. It's hard to give people correct information because of this kind of behavior.
You need to work on your CHA.


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Old 07-20-2023, 09:06 PM
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Easy 100 he will never stop
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