Best Trio That Doesn't Use Enchanter

[Vexenu]

Yeah, I'm a big advocate for Paladins, but the Monk is clearly better with Shm/Nec. You can talk about throwing a Paladin in a non-Enchanter trio if you also throw in a Bard for mana regen (hence my earlier suggestion of PAL/BRD/DRU). But at that point you really can't call it a power trio, just one with fairly good synergy with a lot of room to play around and experiment.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love my paladin but you do realize that you’ve got 58 long level to complete before it even enters the equation right

So what? That's what was being discussed. People are trying to talk about how much Mend heals on a 60 Monk.

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And if we are only considering the end game … well by then the shaman has torpor (doesn’t stack with celestial cleansing)

Torpor reduces DPS. If that's even the healer the group has. Bard/Monk/Cleric has been argued as a top choice.

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The beauty of mend is not for the average hp healed over time - it is that it is instant and available on a short refresh timer. When you do, an emergency instant heal is better than a heal over time. Yes … paladins do have LoH … but how long is the refresh on that again?

If you only need Mend in an "emergency" then it's not that often and Lay Hands does the job better. Paladins have superior healing for a more direct heal as well, which actually works on other party members.

It's crazy to argue that Mend is better than having an entire mana bar and set of heals to work with.

[PatChapp]

Mend is rediculously powerful

[Troxx]

Oh well.

I tried.

[fortior]

It’s not just mend, it’s also the massively better dps and mitigation

I’d do 3 nec HS though, or seb with crypt pets (prolly want a cleric to keep them alive then)

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by fortior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s not just mend, it’s also the massively better dps and mitigation

Yes, exactly. Mend is NOT better than Paladin healing. Monks are simply better than Paladins as a whole.

[BigChief]

Rush

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All iksar, start together at level 1, bigly RP lizardbros, can do well with low budget twinking or self-found, great off-meta Kunark leveling route.

Bros, we failed. Didn't read. Must be all Iksar (and apparently male too, Toxigen sexist like that), so we gotta stop talking about paladins.

Would need to be Necro / Monk / Monk. Remember we talking level 1 and low budget. This is what gets you through them early levels good, monks can tank and dps. 2 necros not bad but feel they may get shredded when too much hits the fan and i don't know if DoT stacking is a problem early on.

Feel that is a good balance from crushing early levels and handling all the leveling spots in mid-late game.


If you lift the restrictions Paladin / Rogue / Rogue is a shredder, Paladin / Rogue / Necro can be amazing.

Not understanding the Torpor talk around here, waiting for anything above level 34 spells to be effective is just horrible for a good group experience.

[Duik]

Since everything has already been done, my vote (if there was one) would be iksar bros mnk/nec/shm kunark style.

Never done an sk to any level so as an exercise sk/mnk/nec would also appeal. Guild <SirFlopsalot>

[Jimjam]

Thinly veiled Toxigen forming a lizardbros crew thread.