09-10-2011, 03:57 AM
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Sarnak
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 208
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Originally Posted by Aadill
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Perhaps a definition of poopsocking needs to be cleared up: poopsocking should (and has) been defined as being online on the spawn point of a mob, fully buffed in order to immediately engage a mob (possibly with auto attack on) in attempts to have an immediate engage. This requires all players present to be sitting at their computer desk ready to attack. The term poopsocking implies you can't leave to go poop because you'll miss something in the game. While there have been instances of poopsocking, most players take turns in shifts on tracking mobs, playing near a mob's spawn area, or even being loged in at all.
Since the inception of Kunark, about the only mobs where players have ever actively waited for it to spawn are Trakanon and VS.
Trakanon is generally camped by logging players out at the ledge due to the otherwise high potential for leapfrogging when coming from the zoneline. This has been done by both guilds for quite some time and is nothing new or even debilitating seeing as the majority of the players are 60 and most don't care about experience or droppable loot (some do and they play other characters while their mains are camped out). Leapfrogging on this server has always been an issue. Camping at the ledge simply removed it from the equation. Trakanon is camped by both guilds by logging out at the ledge. A tracker or group of trackers in the form of an xp group maintain a presence close to Trak's lair to alert either guild of Trakanon spawning. Only on one occasion has there been an actual poopsocking of Trakanon where everyone stayed logged in and buffed with autoattack on on top of his spawn. The window is so short that it's easy to get tied up in the zone very often and sometimes people play for long periods of time because there is a good chance of having the mob spawn during that window.
Venril Sathir is actively camped by XP groups in the area or in the sewers at Verix Kyloxs' camp since a VP key piece is located there. Venril Sathir has been poopsocked on a few occasions but generally only at the end of his window. Karnor's Castle is considered the go-to zone for guild-wide transport around Kunark. That is a tactic that you can find from many online sources and consequently why you generally find a large number of players from both guilds there regardless of the status of Venril Sathir's window.
There are no "4 day long poopsock fests" where players are at their computer ready to go within half a second. That was last summer and has long been gone. As of now, some level of tracking work is put into raiding and sometimes characters get surrendered in the interest of getting a mob kill but no one is looking to sit logged in all day every day. If you want actual poopsocking look no further than Sony's latest progression server. Last time I looked at Fippy it was in way worse condition where everyone DID stay logged in and Shadowknights were used to instantly HT a boss with the assisted use of MQ. Even worse, they were still using the first 15 in zone rule to enforce claim.
So yeah, is this classic? No... but the raid scene has a lot of petitions because neither side is willing to back down in thinking they had FTE on a mob. Both guilds are ready to go within seconds of each other for the most part, and with FTE as the only rule it's only a matter of having some method to know ahead of time so both guilds don't go attacking a mob and THEN go about petitioning. The best fix for that would be for the mob to have a shout when engaged. The first person on the agro list would get it and then everyone know who should be attacking the mob. That was proposed a long long long time ago and it never happened (although I could be imagining it so let me go look this up).
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