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Old 09-09-2022, 06:23 PM
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I think basically we need to get video footage of a 2 enchanter, 1 cleric and 1 mage group doing Seb, then post the parse after an hour or two. Then do the same with mage swapped out for shaman.
That would be great! Please provide this. It would be more productive than your last 100 posts or so that have zero evidence to back up your points.
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Old 09-09-2022, 06:25 PM
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That would be great! Please provide this. It would be more productive than your last 100 posts or so that have zero evidence to back up your points.
Please stop posting. You have invalidated your own argument by your own admissions. There is nothing left to discuss other than whining about trolls. Do you wanna continue doing that another couple hundred times?
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Old 09-09-2022, 06:26 PM
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Please stop posting. You have invalidated your own argument by your own admissions. There is nothing left to discuss other than whining about trolls. Do you wanna continue doing that another couple hundred times?
Sure. You don't get to win a debate by trolling. That isn't how this works. You can provide evidence to back up your claims (which you haven't done so far) or concede at any time.
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Old 09-09-2022, 06:28 PM
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Sure. You don't get to win a debate by trolling. That isn't how this works. You can provide evidence to back up your claims (which you haven't done so far) or concede at any time.
I have nothing to concede. My argument has been correct all along. You recently admitted your argument was incorrect by mistake. Now you're trying to backpedal and make up new bullshit and whine about trolling over and over to deflect from your mistake. As you may have noticed I'm very persistent. I have no plan of letting you weasel out of this or forget that you contradicted yourself and admitted you were wrong whether you like it or not.
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Old 09-09-2022, 06:28 PM
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I have nothing to concede. My argument has been correct all along. You recently admitted your argument was incorrect by mistake. Now you're trying to backpedal and make up new bullshit and whine about trolling over and over to deflect from your mistake. As you may have noticed I'm very persistent. I have no plan of letting you weasel out of this or forget that you contradicted yourself and admitted you were wrong whether you like it or not.
None of this is true, and the post history hasn't changed lol. Just like your history of troll posting, you don't get to pretend it doesn't exist.
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Old 09-09-2022, 06:29 PM
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He's now admitted that mage is better at royals and necro is better at fungi king. He's basically just clinging on to shaman being helpful for ixiblat and maybe like WW dragons? He's backed himself into a very tiny corner with his own words at this point. Would ANYBODY base their entire group makeup for 1-60 and beyond around what class makes more sense for Ixiblat? Or would you take a mage/necro that makes more sense in the vast majority of cases? I played actively on blue for YEARS and I think I killed Ixiblat like twice.

This thread really should be over. I know it won't end. But DSM literally backed himself into a tiny corner and the floor has fallen out beneath him. He's dangling by a thread and is going to continue to argue from there I'm sure.
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I said all of this before, you just aren't reading, as usual. You simply have this strange straw man that I am obsessed with Shamans.
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Okay so we've established shaman has no place in this hypothetical best 4 man caster group outside of a niche mob or two. You keep bringing up Ixiblat which is one of very few situations where I think shaman might be helpful.

There ya have it boys and girls. If you want the best 4 man caster group for Ixiblat and maybe 1-2 other things put a shaman in there. For 1-60 and 95% of everything else at 60 pick something else.

End of thread.

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Old 09-09-2022, 06:30 PM
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I have some actual RL plans unlike your pretend ones. So I gotta run for a bit. I suggest you take a break as well.
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Old 09-09-2022, 06:31 PM
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That would be great! Please provide this. It would be more productive than your last 100 posts or so that have zero evidence to back up your points.
How was putting a solo situation with shaman evidence for shaman beating mage in group DPS?

Fuck off, you self-righteous arsehole.
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Old 09-09-2022, 06:32 PM
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How was putting a solo situation with shaman evidence for shaman beating mage in group DPS?

Fuck off, you self-righteous arsehole.
It is not my fault you seriously think class DPS can only be determined by gathering group data. Please answer this question honestly:

"If I provided 1000 data sets of a group where a Mage parsed at 40 DPS due to his group members sucking, does that mean a Mage's DPS in a group is an average of 40?"

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The copy/paste you keep doing doesn't say what you think it says. But again, context is irrelevant to a troll who can only attempt "gotchas" at this point.
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Old 09-09-2022, 06:47 PM
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So, what you're basically saying is: you know you're wrong but don't want to admit it.

Because when you say "It is not my fault you seriously think class DPS can only be determined by gathering group data.", that's just a cowardly gesture to avoid the reality of your remarks.

You cowardly proclaim "unreliable variables with teammates" when faced with the fact that shaman is completely outclassed by mage in the group DPS role.

Even if what you say is true, then how does the parse of your solo DPS have any merit either?

In either case, you're just a cowardly scumbag too afraid to concede.
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