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[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

intersectionality, brought to you by the oppressed and deluded segments of the top global 1%. meanwhile, at the bottom of the pyramid of global oppression, individuals are pulling themselves out of real poverty by engaging one another and those a step or more ahead of them.

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[Throndor]

It's funny how the left attempts to paint "National Socialism" as existing at the extreme right of the political spectrum.

When Josef Stalin took power, he exterminated "do nothings" that relied on socialist programs for their livelihood because they were a detriment to the functioning of the communist system. He then implemented "Agricultural planning" that removed foodstuffs from the local population throughout present day Ukraine causing the starvation of 5 to 10 million people left to cannibalize themselves to their children, or their children to themselves in order to survive.

When Hitler took power, he started sending all the "do-nothing" "money-lenders" to concentration camps; as a means of putting them to work so that they actually produced something instead of relying on usurious lending practices whilst condoning "fair" trade mostly amongst themselves only, before the Nazis decided the juice just wasn't worth the squeeze and it was better to just give the do-nothings a shower (this included a much wider demograph than "Jew")

Under Mao-ist communism, economic "planning" caused a widescale uprooting of "diversified" agricultural practices that led to inexperienced farmers' homogenous crop"sharing" for the government, which led to the starvation of over 50million people.

In present day Venezuela, after virtue signalling against american agricultural advancements, GMO crops were outlawed (2015). Now, they are in an acute food crisis, where their leader Maduro is promising food in exchange for votes in their "Democratic Socialist" election.

Tell me more about how socialism is a great thing.

The political spectrum is not

(Communist/Democratic Socialist)<------(Centralist/Capitalist)------->(Fascist)

It is

(Communist)\
(Collectivism)<---------------(Tempered Individualism/Democratic Capitalism)---------->(Laissez Faire Capitalism/Extreme Libertarianism)
(Fascist)/

Only under a system of individual liberty are you fucking wierdo pan-sexual, pedo-sexual circus freaks afforded the right to continue living the wierd ass lives you are. Go try to be a polyamorous pansexual woman with a beard in Iraq/Syria/Saudi Arabia or pretty much anywhere south of the sahara. You won't fucking live very long in their "communal" villages. Nor will you live very long once you've forfeited your individual liberties to the state in the western world. History has shown this to be quite evident, time and time again.

[rebeccablack]

who are you even talking to

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by rebeccablack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

who are you even talking to

hey show some respect. he's in mensa! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[maskedmelon]

The political spectrum is a downward sloping line from totalitarianism to anarcho-capitalism. liberty is promised on the right, order on the left, something inherently lacking in the lives of each.

[Irulan]

Hey I have a lot of economic anxiety guys. But I at least know communism isn't the answer.

Why are people so fucking stupidington.

[Throndor]

Originally Posted by Irulan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey I have a lot of economic anxiety guys. But I at least know communism isn't the answer.

Why are people so fucking stupidington.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_XjlVrrU_A

It's called a Hard Stare. My Aunt Lucy taught me to do them to people who have forgotten their manners.

[Throndor]

Originally Posted by rebeccablack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

who are you even talking to

You're going to have to read a couple hundred pages back to understand where the conversation is now. Welcome.

[maskedmelon]

very few people want communism or anarcho-capitalism. it's where the roads lead though. you don't get more benefits without fewer liberties and you don't get more liberties without fewer benefits.

[Throndor]

anarcho-capitalism = laissez faire capitalism, and yes, you're absolutely right.

The primary political environment, ongoing in the US right now, is a battle between these two elements with the Democrats forwarding the aims of collectivists, and the republicans forwarding the aims of individualists.

However, there are some fundamental ponzi-esque elements in the current model those of us who are relatively satisfied with the current equilibrium point want to see addressed, and neither party gives a fuck to address them because they're both exploiting them to their benefit.

This secondary argument is one of Meritocracy vs Nepotism.