the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[Horza]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you guys always fight about what capitalism is when America doesn't even use that system?

The U.S. has a mixed economy, exhibiting characteristics of both capitalism and socialism.

So does pretty much every single other capitalist country on the planet, Einstein.

[nostalgiaquest]

british politics is so much more fun

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So does pretty much every single other capitalist country on the planet, Einstein.

Most european countries often cited as examples of functional socialism are only able to afford their social programs because they have absolutely no military infrastructure and rely on NATO (really the US since nobody else pays in) for their defense. So the US is the least socialist of them, and also isn't a sitting duck for aggressive foreign actors. Many of the social programs the US does have are poorly managed, bloated, and incentivize single motherhood and government dependency, which is strongly correlated with generational poverty and crime.

So yeah socialism still sucks.

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you guys always fight about what capitalism is when America doesn't even use that system?

The U.S. has a mixed economy, exhibiting characteristics of both capitalism and socialism.

Freedom and Socialism cannot coexist

[Kaveh]

Originally Posted by nostalgiaquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

british politics is so much more fun

I wish we had that system. He got ousted for having a party during Covid, right? If we had those standards, our entire elected class would be out on their asses

[Reiwa]

$2m for pocket gophers

Project Name: Pocket Gopher Conservation Land Purchase

Recipient: City of Yelm

Address: 106 2nd St SE Yelm, WA 98597

Amount Requested: $2,000,000

Project Description and Explanation:This project is for purchasing sufficient contiguous lands within the proposed permit area with suitable soils to provide protected habitat for the Pocket Gophers. The properties would be maintained as a habitat conservation preserve to provide mitigation for developments within the City that impact Pocket Gophers. Sustainable and smart growth requires an urban option for housing and the provision of goods and services. A city resident has a significantly lower carbon footprint than a suburban or rural resident. In the long term, encouraging urbanization is the best way to lower the cost of providing services to our citizens and to lessen the impact on the environment by discouraging sprawl.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Reading between the lines, it's pretty obvious that the world vision of whatever group you quoted that from amounts to, "Pack most folks into wretched crowded ghettos while reserving the green countrysides only for the wealthy elite."

[Elizondo]

"To keep alive the truth and HONOR of the Holocaust" - Joe Biden 7/13/22

[Kaveh]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most european countries often cited as examples of functional socialism are only able to afford their social programs because they have absolutely no military infrastructure and rely on NATO (really the US since nobody else pays in) for their defense. So the US is the least socialist of them, and also isn't a sitting duck for aggressive foreign actors. Many of the social programs the US does have are poorly managed, bloated, and incentivize single motherhood and government dependency, which is strongly correlated with generational poverty and crime.

So yeah socialism still sucks.

50% of healthcare costs here are state financed and ours is the most expensive in the world

We are still very socialist and also very inefficient. Europeans have high speed rail. We have canceled flights

We could maintain freedom and yet have government priorities to make our lives better that weren’t simply dialysis or defense contracts. Why is dialysis the only medical treatment subsidized fully by the US federal government? It’s nonsense, once you’re on dialysis you need new kidneys. We should make obesity illegal and make its promotion (fat people in media) illegal as well

[Kaveh]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reading between the lines, it's pretty obvious that the world vision of whatever group you quoted that from amounts to, "Pack most folks into wretched crowded ghettos while reserving the green countrysides only for the wealthy elite."

I’ve also seen numerous studies indicating that cities warm the planet through the heat island effect, so that’s a weird conclusion. If they want to save the gophers good for them, but the price tag and conclusion don’t make sense

Some cities like Tel Aviv don’t, but most aren’t purpose built to be cooler or more efficient (tel Aviv was / is)