If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[boboo]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys are just so bull-headed.

Funny thing is agree on most of your points, but you shoot yourself in the foot by saying if you beleive in god youre an idiot. (I hadnt noticed u were the one to start the thread). I think organized religion is transparently false, but take someone like my father. He beleives in something, some life after death, some life energy that makes us conscient past death, but not organized religion.

The point is, who the fuck knows if the visible universe is not some experiment in some unimaginably complex creature's beaker? You seem to stray too close to religious dogmatism yourself.

[chtulu]

Originally Posted by boboo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Funny thing is agree on most of your points, but you shoot yourself in the foot by saying if you beleive in god youre an idiot. (I hadnt noticed u were the one to start the thread). I think organized religion is transparently false, but take someone like my father. He beleives in something, some life after death, some life energy that makes us conscient past death, but not organized religion.

The point is, who the fuck knows if the visible universe is not some experiment in some unimaginably complex creature's beaker? You seem to stray too close to religious dogmatism yourself.

That doesn't answer any questions though, it's just a circular argument. If something that complex made this universe, what made that complex entity?

[boboo]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That doesn't answer any questions though, it's just a circular argument. If something that complex made this universe, what made that complex entity?

Who the fuck knows, thats my point.

[chtulu]

Originally Posted by boboo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who the fuck knows, thats my point.

The fact that the bible hasn't done anything to further our knowledge, when we, as a species, are able to further ourselves without the help of some omnipotent being. There is no GOOD reason to believe in a God.

[boboo]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That doesn't answer any questions though, it's just a circular argument. If something that complex made this universe, what made that complex entity?

Maybe nobody made it, maybe that unimaginably complex creature lives in a universe of its own that spontaneously generated itself, like what some atheists beleives how this universe was generated. But that unimaginably complex creature got bored and asked dad for a universe creation kit(TM) for festivus and played with it for a tiny fraction of its lifespan, 13 billion years. That would be delicious irony wouldnt it?

[chtulu]

Originally Posted by boboo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe nobody made it, maybe that unimaginably complex creature lives in a universe of its own that spontaneously generated itself, like what some atheists beleives how this universe was generated. But that unimaginably complex creature got bored and asked dad for a universe creation kit(TM) for festivus and played with it for a tiny fraction of its lifespan, 13 billion years. That would be delicious irony wouldnt it?

Only if we were made by Hasbro.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That doesn't answer any questions though, it's just a circular argument. If something that complex made this universe, what made that complex entity?

An Introduction To The Law Of One

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

An Introduction To The Law Of One

And more recently:

God is Unnecessary

[eqholmes]

So what I got from reading 5 pages of this before it became the samething said over and over is........ "What I believe is right, what you believe is wrong unless you agree with me" ?????

Maybe just let people believe what they want and shut up? Only problem I have ever had is when people try to push whatever bullshit they believe on me. Trying to convince someone to believe you without fact is like me trying to stick my dick in Megan Fox, its not going to happen!!!!

Holmes 50 nerco
Gretzky 50 ranger

[boboo]

Originally Posted by eqholmes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So what I got from reading 5 pages of this before it became the samething said over and over is........ "What I believe is right, what you believe is wrong unless you agree with me" ?????

Maybe just let people believe what they want and shut up? Only problem I have ever had is when people try to push whatever bullshit they believe on me. Trying to convince someone to believe you without fact is like me trying to stick my dick in Megan Fox, its not going to happen!!!!

Holmes 50 nerco
Gretzky 50 ranger

it becomes a problem though when religion becomes fanatical, im very apprehensive of when these christian apocalyptic nuts try to "cash in" on the natural consequences of humans pillaging the environment too fast for it to replenish and people start to beleive "YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU STRAY OFF THE PATH THAT GOD HAS CHOSEN FOR YOU?!? NOW REPENT OR DIE!!!" as they tie you to a bonfire and history repeats itself.