Name Change is in Order - Page 25

Diggles · #**241** 11-23-2011, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Melveny [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You may be of the Jewish heritage, that does not make you a victim of th Jewish holocaust. You should be ashamed of yourself for thinking you felt or went through what they experienced for you to be here today. Especially with you taking a word and categorizing it to one particular group, when there have been many holocausts in our history.

pickled_heretic · #**242** 11-23-2011, 05:16 PM

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You should be ashamed of yourself for thinking you felt or went through what they experienced for you to be here today.

Asinine. The term "Holocaust" is respected specifically out of deference toward those who died, not because of some concept of personal suffering.

Humerox · #**243** 11-23-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Absolutely. That's how language works. There is no "objectivity" in language, a word only ever means what a majority of people think it means.

You don't come out and directly say it, but the meaning here is clear. To paraphrase, you're saying that since a majority of people think "holocaust" means the Jewish massacre, then that's what it means.

When, in fact, it doesn't. There are grammatical rules for distiguishing meaning. Context also plays a role. That is the crux of my argument. My platform is that the intent was not malicious or to insult Jews, or the "other" 5 million for that matter.

Someone else said something about "playing a victim" in this. That was pretty insightful...and I still say the OP just wants to grief the guild.

Aruden · #**244** 11-23-2011, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Diggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aruden, can you address the question of why you're acting like you were IN the Holocaust?

you weren't why are you so offended

Diggles, picture everyone you love and know. Your parents, your siblings, your wife, your children, your friends. Everyone.

Now imagine 2 out of 3 of were brutally murdered.

That was the fate of European Jewry.

If you want to make light of that, its on you.

purest · #**245** 11-23-2011, 05:21 PM

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pickled_heretic · #**246** 11-23-2011, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My platform is that the intent was not malicious or to insult Jews, or the "other" 5 million for that matter.

Intent is irrelevant. Only perception. Once again, I don't get to tell you what I mean when I call you a ******.

Aruden · #**247** 11-23-2011, 05:27 PM

I have nothing against the members of Holocaust. I have never run into any of them in game. I just think that their guild name is inappropriate. Even if their intention was "holocaust" as opposed to "Holocaust," they must have known that it could and in all likelihood would be interpreted as "Holocaust" in some cases (at least 54 confirmed). To disregard that is insensitive and offensive.

Tombom · #**248** 11-23-2011, 05:29 PM

this is the best troll ive seen yet A+

good work Aru, app to B$ we are looking for players of your calibur

Aruden · #**249** 11-23-2011, 05:29 PM

purest, you should be ashamed for promulgating misinformation driven by preexisting racism and at least have the balls to source it.

Humerox · #**250** 11-23-2011, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Intent is irrelevant. Only perception. Once again, I don't get to tell you what I mean when I call you a ******.

But then wer're back to linguistics.

And on the "******" part

"******, u so crazy." "You're just a f'n ******."

The first statement would get you a hug. The second wouldn't.

Context.