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Old 09-12-2022, 03:09 PM
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Please ignore DSM in this thread. He is just trolling. He has accumulated over 800 posts that are literally just bad data and bad arguments. He shouldn't since everyone knows the things he's saying are wrong and stupid, but he seems to enjoy being silly in this thread.

Reposting the current state of the discussion:

Shaman doesn't belong in the best overall 4 person caster/priest group for a variety of very obvious reasons that require no data or calculations

Enchanters solo better than warriors
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Old 09-12-2022, 03:11 PM
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i wonder if he has been trolling us this whole time
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Old 09-12-2022, 03:12 PM
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i wonder if he has been trolling us this whole time
I honestly wonder that. I think there's a 50/50 shot it's either that or he's truly as dense and dumb as he seems.
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Old 09-12-2022, 03:20 PM
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Let's continue our civil discussion guys!



According to DSM, you would not Malo/Slow mobs dying in 30 seconds. In the context of a high level fast-paced killing DPS group, this would presumably be most mobs.

What value does a Shaman add to Enc/Enc/Clr group over a Mage if the Shaman will (as has been irrefutably stated by DSM in this thread) not utilize Malo or Slow for most of the mobs the group is killing hehe? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
None, except maybe in a rare situation you need someone to step in and tank with Torpor?

You'd have a necro who could shadowbond or step in with harmshield if shit really hit the fan though. Necros can also just tank & spam deflux which is like the current meta for soloing big nameds.

So again, really no point to a shaman, unless you like losing dps for useless utility hehe.
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Old 09-12-2022, 03:29 PM
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i wonder if he has been trolling us this whole time
Honestly it is certainly a possibility that he is just an expert level troll.

Especially because on Friday he got backed into a corner where he accidentally admitted that 3 Enchanters and a Cleric is the best group composition and then frantically tried to recover and claim that a Shaman would still be better than having the Enchanter. No one can actually act this way in good faith I would think, so I would be willing to bet money he's just trolling.
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Old 09-12-2022, 03:59 PM
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It's really sad that I am called a troll for using logic and evidence to support my position, while insulting/memeing/rage posting is considered to be a perfectly valid method of argumentation.
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Old 09-12-2022, 04:01 PM
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It's really sad that I am called a troll for using logic and evidence to support my position, while insulting/memeing/rage posting is considered to be a perfectly valid method of argumentation.
Well the nice thing for you is that you can continue to live in your head where you're always right and the countless people who have posted in this thread calling you incorrect are just wrong/trolls. So at least you've got that going for you, which is nice.

Although if you're so above everyone as you continue to sanctimoniously claim, then everyone must wonder why you keep making whiney posts like this. If you're so holier than thou you'd think you'd just exit the thread....hmmmmm I wonder why you don't do that...
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Old 09-12-2022, 04:24 PM
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Somebody math me in on stuff that matters, nobody cares about full spellbook NToV geared Cleric/Ench/Ench/Enchs Exp'ing in KC.


Somebody tell me who wins when
-Max level 56
-Chardok bank or Seb crypt
-Ench forgot peridots
-Cleric perpetually semi-afk so no buffs
-Mage forgets to send pet because they're arguing in /ooc
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Old 09-12-2022, 05:20 PM
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Imagine defending DSM -- claiming you'd want his side in a debate.

You want the words of a manipulative sociopath on your side? Because all he's done is pathologically lie and disingenuously shift his arguments and the goalposts when things don't look good for him.

Okay...
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Old 09-12-2022, 05:25 PM
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It's really sad that I am called a troll for using logic and evidence to support my position, while insulting/memeing/rage posting is considered to be a perfectly valid method of argumentation.
Exactly what a real troll would say
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